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Notes from America with Kai Wright

Capitalism vs. Time

Notes from America with Kai Wright

WNYC Studios

News Commentary, Politics, History, News

4.41.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 March 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

As Amazon workers conclude a historic unionization drive, we consider the history of collective action -- and the struggle to shield our humanity from the demands of productivity. Labor journalist and Type Media Center reporting fellow Sarah Jaffe breaks down the history of workplace organizing at Amazon and in the Black South. And she talks about her new book, “Work Won’t Love You Back: How Devotion to Our Jobs Keeps Us Exploited, Exhausted, and Alone,” as listeners chime in about their own experiences with collective action in the workplace. Then adrienne maree brown - writer, activist and co-host of the How to Survive the End of the World and Octavia’s Parables - joined our reporter Jenny Casas to frame our conflicts - as individuals within a country battling with overlapping crises - through the lens of Octavia Butler’s “Parable of the Sower,” a science fiction classic that experienced a surge in readership in 2020. Companion listening for this episode: “The Necessary Work” (9/7/2020) Public and care workers have been on the frontlines of the pandemic, but who takes care of them? We explore the histories, realities and hopes of these very essential workers. “‘Community’ is a Verb. And It’s Hard” (6/12/2020) People all over the country are stepping up to make change. But as they do, they face challenges that go beyond Covid-19 and police violence. Two stories, from Chicago and New York City. “The United States of Anxiety” airs live on Sunday evenings at 6pm ET. The podcast episodes are lightly edited from our live broadcasts. To catch all the action, tune into the show on Sunday nights via the stream on WNYC.org/anxiety or tell your smart speakers to play WNYC. We want to hear from you! Connect with us on Twitter @WNYC using the hashtag #USofAnxiety or email us at [email protected].

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0:00.0

This is the United States of Anxiety, a show about the unfinished business of our history and its grip on our future.

0:07.8

The implications, Brian, of course, are massive.

0:10.0

This is sort of the biggest unionization effort that Amazon has ever seen on U.S.

0:14.2

We need systemic change in how corporations behave in our economy and how black people

0:20.6

are treated throughout society.

0:22.0

We know that the most likely group of people that say that they would form and join a union tomorrow

0:27.0

are people of color and women, for we have had no choice.

0:31.0

One struggle, one fight. You can't suggest that they stand before an employer that really holds life and death

0:38.1

in the sense over their livelihood.

0:40.0

Let's face it, the labor moment was a major institution propelling us toward equality.

0:44.4

Choice to join a union is up to the workers full stop.

0:51.2

Full stop. an encounter I had a couple of years ago. We were gearing up to cover the 2018 midterm

1:05.4

elections on this show and that summer I went with one of our producers to the

1:09.7

suburbs around Pittsburgh. There was a special election there and everybody was watching it. It was

1:14.3

considered an early indicator of what might happen in the congressional elections which

1:18.8

were of course themselves early indicators of what might happen in 2020.

1:23.0

So it was an intense moment, politically at least, for this little suburb.

1:28.0

Anyway, the Republican strategy was to make the race all about hating Nancy Pelosi. and we went out with canvassers who were

1:34.9

knocking on doors and talking to voters because we wanted to hear what people had to say about

1:38.6

Pelosi about this powerful often demonized woman. We were in this famously blue collar area, a classic

1:45.9

neighborhood of modest houses home to the kind of workers that both parties have

1:51.0

so often invoked as avatars of their political platforms.

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