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Hi, hello, and Merry Christmas to all who celebrate. It's Jen Sullivan. This is Fat Mascara, a podcast about beauty culture. I cannot think of a better way to light up the holiday season than candles. What else? You know our interest in candles here at Fat Mascarer Borders on Obsession. I would say it's an obsession, but what can we say? Candles are

fabulous. They're the best. They're a way to experience fragrance and all it has to offer, you know,

even if you don't like actual perfume. So this interview with Lewis Hotchkiss is probably going to

blow your mind a bit if you like candles.

Lewis is an actual candle maker, not like in the pre-industrial revolution sense, but he is the founder of Kobo Candles, which started as a kitchen counter laboratory, developed into a factory.

They create and manufacture candles for some of the most major brands.

So this interview, originally,

it was recorded in 2021. Jess will be here in a second. She's with me as we interview Lewis.

But a lot has changed since then. In 2022, Lewis sold his company, Cobo, to Merr's Apothecary,

which is a family-owned business in the Chicago area. So they moved production from New York

to the Chicago area,

and that's where they are now. But you can still find Kobo Candles. They make their own brand of

candles, as well as doing custom orders and private label work. That's all still their website,

cobo candles.com. So if you're interested, I'll put that in the links for you. But now,

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