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Robert Wright's Nonzero

Canada, Tesla, and Other Trump-Musk Troubles (Robert Wright & Paul Bloom)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

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0:28 Does Paul have CDS (Chaos Desensitization Syndrome)? 4:06 Worthwhile Canadian backlash 9:54 Elon’s Tesla problem 15:34 Trump 2.0’s free speech crackdown 18:28 The primal psychology of Trump and Elon 26:10 Bezos and university presidents bow to Trump 36:29 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded March 12, 2025.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/NonzeroPods

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:29.3

Hello, Paul.

0:31.1

Hello, Robert. How are you?

0:33.5

I'm just doing wonderfully. Let me introduce it.

0:36.4

I'm Robert Wright, publisher and editor and chief of the non-zero newsletters.

0:40.1

This is a non-zero podcast.

0:42.3

You are Paul Bloom, famous psychologist.

0:45.1

You used to teach at Yale.

0:46.6

Now you teach at the University of Toronto,

0:49.0

so we know which side of the board of you're planning your flag on

0:52.4

in this increasingly bitter conflict.

0:55.7

And you are publisher and sole author of what may well be the most famous of all the

1:05.3

substack newsletters that are called small potatoes.

1:09.9

Congratulations.

1:10.6

The biggest of the small potatoes. Mm-hmm. Easily. It's not close. Not close. I don't want to offend anybody. We don't want to get into that, but not close. So, Bob, can I raise something? Sure. I really enjoy every two weeks getting together with you. And I think it's sort of...

1:27.9

Thank you for raising that, Paul.

1:31.0

There's more.

1:32.0

Oh, that was preamble?

1:33.1

There's more.

1:33.8

It was preamble.

1:36.9

You know, I think we both get a lot out of it.

1:39.8

It's all good.

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