I was polling some friends around and asking, right, how many dates should you go on someone,

even when you're not feeling it? And everyone pretty much said that you've got to go on at least

a second date because you might as well. And so I kind of set a little rule for myself, the three-date

rule, which is that I have to go in at least three dates with someone before deciding one way

or another about them.

Welcome to Doing It with me, Hannah Witten, where we talk all things, sex, relationships, dating, and our bodies.

Hi, welcome back to doing it.

Today's episode is a bit of a wildcard because if you know who my guest is, you might be thinking,

what's he doing on a podcast about sex and relationships?

But it'll all make sense, I promise.

Today I am joined by Ali Abdol, who is a doctor and YouTuber and he makes content about productivity, tech and living a happy and healthy life. And yes, you're probably still

thinking, what has that got to do with the themes of this podcast? We do in fact find some

crossovers with productivity and dating.

But also, this podcast isn't just about interviewing experts or people inside the sex-positive

community.

I think it's also important to share stories of people who are outside of that bubble, which is

most people.

Everyone has experiences of sexuality, relationships and dating, even if it is just fantasies of those things

and watching media representations of them and internalize feelings about them.

And you do not have to be an expert or part of a movement to experience

and feel those things. So this interview with my friend Ali is just that someone's story.

We talk about Ali's journey with dating and what actually all of the premium offerings from

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