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🗓️ 22 June 2025
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0:00.0 | Questions about black people's place in the world have been rocket fuel for some of the most fiery debates in history. |
0:10.3 | And three of those debates still have black people heated today. |
0:15.4 | I'm Len from Push Black, and this is Two-Minute Black History, what you didn't learn in school. |
0:29.8 | In 1965, ARC conservative William F. Buckley challenged James Baldwin to a debate on the American Dream. |
0:39.7 | Buckley foolishly claimed that racism was no longer a problem for black people, but Baldwin |
0:45.3 | quickly proved him wrong, insisting that black people's oppression had made the, quote, |
0:51.1 | American dream possible for white people, but not for themselves. |
0:56.3 | The disagreement between W.E. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington dominated the black |
1:01.4 | conversation of the early 20th century. De Bois, a reliever in a talented 10th leading the way |
1:08.1 | to equality, clash with Washington, the champion of black economic |
1:12.7 | independence. Although they didn't see eye to eye on the details, their intentions were the same. |
1:19.8 | In September of 1977, TV host Steve Edwards aired an hour-long debate between Jesse Jackson |
1:26.9 | and David Duke, a former |
1:29.1 | grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Duke did his best to make white supremacy sound normal. |
1:36.7 | But Jackson saw right through it. He knew that the economic fears of poor whites could be |
1:42.6 | played upon by demagogues like Duke. |
1:54.3 | You see, there's power in our voices when it comes to our people. |
1:58.6 | With every breath, word, and action, we determine history. |
2:03.6 | Where would our people be without these critical conversations? |
2:07.6 | These three debates show the power of using our voices. Even when we disagree, starting the |
2:14.1 | conversation could spark change in our communities. In order to move towards the future, you've got to look to the past. |
2:21.4 | This has been Two-Minute Black History, a podcast by Push Black. |
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