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Black History Year

Can We Talk? Three Necessary Debates About Black Culture

Black History Year

PushBlack

History, Society & Culture

4.32.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2025

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Questions about Black people’s place in the world have been rocket fuel for some of the most fiery debates in history. And three of those debates still have Black people heated today._____________2-Minute Black History is produced by PushBlack, the nation's largest non-profit Black media company. PushBlack exists to amplify the stories of Black history you didn't learn in school. You make PushBlack happen with your contributions at BlackHistoryYear.com — most people donate $10 a month, but every dollar makes a difference. If this episode moved you, share it with your people! Thanks for supporting the work.The production team for this podcast includes Cydney Smith and Len Webb. Our editors are Lance John and Avery Phillips from Gifted Sounds Network. Lilly Workneh serves as executive producer. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Questions about black people's place in the world have been rocket fuel for some of the most fiery debates in history.

0:10.3

And three of those debates still have black people heated today.

0:15.4

I'm Len from Push Black, and this is Two-Minute Black History, what you didn't learn in school.

0:29.8

In 1965, ARC conservative William F. Buckley challenged James Baldwin to a debate on the American Dream.

0:39.7

Buckley foolishly claimed that racism was no longer a problem for black people, but Baldwin

0:45.3

quickly proved him wrong, insisting that black people's oppression had made the, quote,

0:51.1

American dream possible for white people, but not for themselves.

0:56.3

The disagreement between W.E. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington dominated the black

1:01.4

conversation of the early 20th century. De Bois, a reliever in a talented 10th leading the way

1:08.1

to equality, clash with Washington, the champion of black economic

1:12.7

independence. Although they didn't see eye to eye on the details, their intentions were the same.

1:19.8

In September of 1977, TV host Steve Edwards aired an hour-long debate between Jesse Jackson

1:26.9

and David Duke, a former

1:29.1

grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. Duke did his best to make white supremacy sound normal.

1:36.7

But Jackson saw right through it. He knew that the economic fears of poor whites could be

1:42.6

played upon by demagogues like Duke.

1:54.3

You see, there's power in our voices when it comes to our people.

1:58.6

With every breath, word, and action, we determine history.

2:03.6

Where would our people be without these critical conversations?

2:07.6

These three debates show the power of using our voices. Even when we disagree, starting the

2:14.1

conversation could spark change in our communities. In order to move towards the future, you've got to look to the past.

2:21.4

This has been Two-Minute Black History, a podcast by Push Black.

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