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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Can We Talk About Biden’s Age?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 September 2019

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Is Joe Biden’s shakiness on the stump a sign that he’s just too old to run for president? Or is it just proof that some of his critics are ageist? The columnists debate the state of Biden’s 2020 campaign. Then, has “cancel culture” run amok? Or is it a deserved consequence for conduct society shouldn’t tolerate? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.8

I'm Ross Douthett.

0:03.0

I'm David Lee and Hart.

0:04.2

And this is the argument.

0:06.7

This week, is it okay to talk about Joe Biden's age?

0:11.2

I remember seeing Joe Biden giving this kind of barn burner speech against Trump,

0:16.2

and he's just not that person anymore.

0:18.7

Then, we talk cancel culture, the phenomenon of boycotting famous people who've behaved bad with.

0:25.4

It gets to a much larger question, which is, what are the moral and ideological norms

0:31.4

for artists and for society right now?

0:34.9

And finally, a recommendation.

0:37.0

The strange thing about this book is that it is ultimately uplifting.

0:43.1

Joe Biden would be the oldest American president to take office, older than Ronald Reagan or Donald

0:56.8

Trump.

0:57.8

And Biden's age has become a sensitive subject in the Democratic campaign.

1:01.5

He's 76 years old, and there have definitely been times in the campaign when he has not

1:05.9

looked sharp.

1:06.9

But, what do you do?

1:08.5

Poor kids are just as bright and just as tall as white kids.

1:12.9

Welfly kids, black kids, Asian kids.

1:17.4

Play the radio.

1:18.4

Make sure the television, excuse me, make sure you have the record player on it tonight.

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