Can we Break Free? Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger

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Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

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🗓️ 21 July 2022

⏱️ 189 minutes

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Summary

Bret Speaks with Michael Shellenberger regarding his recent gubernatorial campaign in California. They discuss the difficulty inherent in running for political office outside of the two major parties. In addition, they touch on topics ranging from nuclear power to Covid, and how we might go about escaping the modern predicament we have landed in.

Find Michael at his website: https://shellenberger.org/

Buy Michael’s latest book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/San-Fransicko-Progressives-Ruin-Cities/dp/0063093626/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1652994380&sr=8-1

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Timestamps:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:40) Bret misjudged Michael

(04:20) Sponsors

(05:45) Disappointment from election

(07:40) Yang, Amash, Gabbard

(10:20) IDW for political change and previous elections

(14:32) Andrew Yang and lone wolf disease

(20:55) Third party and hidden tribes report

(31:45) Party identity

(34:40) Lack of endorsements

(41:12) Homelessness coverage is now more balanced

(43:52) Michael Shellenberger on COVID

(45:35) Bret's COVID position

(01:04:20) Critics of Bret's ivm position

(01:13:52) COVID dissidents

(01:18:30) Nuclear weapons

(01:28:10) Nuclear energy

(01:33:52) Energy transitions and fusion

(01:41:30) Spent fuel rods and fuel pools

(01:48:40) Fukushima and Chernobyl

(02:00:32) Deaths from Nuclear, fentanyl, COVID

(02:04:22) Water cooled nuclear plants and coolants

(02:08:25) Human factors and Three Mile Island

(02:11:20) Dealing with spent fuel fires

(02:20:40) Dry cast storage

(02:25:20) Power grid down

(02:37:40) WIPP project

(02:45:50) What would Bret do with energy

(02:50:00) Nuclear war inevitable

(02:59:30) Bret's skepticism

(03:03:00) Wrap up

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0:00.0	Nations and states that they decide how to respond to COVID based on
0:06.6	California, California culture determined how we responded to COVID more than
0:12.9	Gavin Newsom and the Swedish culture determined is why they had a different
0:18.3	response to COVID than say Germany or South Korea that these things come from
0:26.1	within they're not opposed by WHM has less of a role than we think and
0:32.3	culture has more of a role. Unfortunately somebody made it virtually impossible
0:36.4	for you to get Ivermectom even though it might have been just a thing to
0:40.1	protect your family. Isn't hard yet? Yeah very. Okay it was confiscated at the
0:44.5	border. Yeah you were a pharmacist. Your doctor could say yes this is what you
0:48.5	need to prescribe it and your pharmacist would refuse to fill the prescription.
0:51.4	They made it extremely difficult. But whether or not there were school lockdowns
0:54.8	or school closures. Yeah came from within. There was certainly a patchwork of
1:01.4	different reactions across the country but certain things were centralized
1:05.6	like that should not have Ivermectom. Okay yeah yeah so it's complicated. Yeah.
1:13.9	Welcome to my house. Thank you. Thank you for welcoming to me. Welcome me
1:20.6	to your house. Welcome to the Dark Horse Podcast Michael Schellenberger. Thank
1:25.6	you brother. Pleasure. We have been traveling in I don't know that circles can
1:30.6	be parallel. I have a feeling they can be but geometry aside we have been
1:34.6	traveling in parallel circles for some time this is the first time we have met
1:39.8	these right corresponded a little bit. Yeah I think the I'd like to start by
1:47.3	offering you an apology. Now I've said this too privately but I believe I
1:53.8	misjudged you and I think it is very important that when you misjudge a
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