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Matter of Opinion

Can Trump be President? It Depends on How You Define Democracy.

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Is Donald Trump an insurrectionist who should be barred from the ballot? On this episode of “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss who should get to decide if the former president can try to return to the White House. Plus, the hosts lay out what other stories are on their 2024 political bingo cards.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's a new year. Well, sorry guys, I didn't mean to on that.

0:04.4

I'm feeling very, very rusty here.

0:06.4

We're very rusty.

0:07.4

May I recommend some extra coal medicine?

0:09.4

Yeah, my kids couldn't believe like, oh, you have to go back to doing the podcast again.

0:14.0

Yeah.

0:15.0

From New York Times opinion, I'm Lydia Polgreen.

0:19.0

I'm Michelle Coddle.

0:20.0

I'm Ross Dauthett.

0:21.0

And I'm Carlos Lusada and this is matter of opinion. It's a new year and it's a big one because we're in an election year that's already

0:38.5

consuming headlines and to be honest also consuming this podcast.

0:42.1

Alas! Colorado Supreme Court and Maine's Secretary of State. to be honest also consuming this podcast. Alas.

0:43.4

Colorado Supreme Court and Maine Secretary of State ruled recently that Trump is ineligible to be on

0:47.8

the ballot, joining 30 something states that have lodged some form of challenge to Trump's

0:51.8

eligibility.

0:53.0

Ultimately, this will almost certainly land at the Supreme Court, which will have to

0:57.3

deliver some kind of definitive verdict.

0:59.8

Unsurprisingly, not everyone agrees on the constitutional ground in these cases are based on,

1:04.7

which we'll get into, and I have a feeling we don't all agree amongst ourselves either,

1:08.8

which will be really, really fun to talk about.

1:11.6

Okay, so guys, in one sentence, what's the most significant thing about these cases that you want to talk about today?

1:18.0

I have been watching America's finest constitutional minds go back and forth on this,

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