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Life Kit

Can therapy save their friendship?

Life Kit

NPR

Kids & Family, Self-improvement, Business, Health & Fitness, Education

4.5 β€’ 4.9K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 17 December 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Would you ever consider going to therapy with a friend? In this episode from NPR Invisibilia, two best friends β€” who are so close they call themselves brothers β€” were drifting apart, so host Yowei Shaw asked psychotherapist Esther Perel to help. This episode was recorded in collaboration with Perel's podcast, Where Should We Begin?

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0:00.0

Highlife kit listeners, we've got a treat for you all today.

0:03.1

Our colleagues at Invisibilia have this great episode about going to therapy with your friends.

0:08.3

It features psychotherapist Esther Peral, working with two best friends who've drifted apart.

0:13.2

And if you like this one, dive into Invisibilia's other episodes.

0:16.8

Their latest season is all about searching for control in a time of upheaval.

0:20.9

There's an episode about a comic and a dominatrix facing off to solve a power problem,

0:26.0

a thought experiment on maintaining control of your body in a post-row world,

0:30.5

and an episode about navigating the absence of loved ones during the holidays.

0:35.0

You can find out more about Invisibilia at npr.org slash Invisibilia.

0:39.5

Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

0:56.5

From NPR, this is Invisibilia. I'm Yoay Shah.

0:59.5

And I'm Kia Miyakanatees.

1:01.5

Okay, so Kia, a couple of years ago, I was talking to my therapist, having kind of a boring session.

1:09.4

When she told me something that pushed a button, I did not know even existed inside me.

1:17.6

She just casually suggested the idea of friend therapy.

1:23.4

Okay, what did she mean by that?

1:25.3

I think she meant group therapy or couples therapy, but between friends.

1:32.9

But in that moment, all I remember is my blood running cold, my entire body recoiling,

1:40.6

and saying, F that very loudly in my head.

1:44.4

Why? That is quite the reaction.

1:48.0

I think it was because I'd never heard those words uttered before. Friend therapy.

1:52.7

It also just seemed mad awkward.

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