Can therapy alone heal the soul? Two Psychiatrists Treating BPD & NPD Explore the Search for Meaning

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🗓️ 6 June 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Can Therapy Heal the Soul? Exploring BPD, NPD and Meaning in Christian and Secular Psychiatry Today we’re asking: Can therapy heal the soul? We’ll be exploring two complex and often misunderstood conditions - borderline personality disorder (BPD) and narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) - through both Christian and secular perspectives. What happens when psychiatry meets philosophy? And how do meaning, identity, and belief shape the path to healing? Joining Vince Vitale on Unbelievable? are two leading psychiatrists from the Gunderson Residence at McLean Hospital in Massachusetts - Dr Brandon Unruh and Dr Claire Brickell. As colleagues, friends, and thoughtful practitioners, they bring Christian and secular perspectives to the complex work of treating borderline personality disorder (BPD) and narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) - exploring how therapy, identity, and belief intersect in the search for meaning. SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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0:00.0	The Bible is God's big story. But where do you begin? Explore the Bible one step at a time with the Bible course new edition.
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0:27.9	course new edition now. Welcome to Premiere Unbelievable, the show that brings together
0:35.3	Christians and non-Christians for honest and respectful
0:39.1	conversations. I'm Vince Vitale, and today we're asking, can therapy heal the soul? We'll be
0:45.3	exploring mental health, including some complex and often misunderstood conditions, such as
0:50.2	borderline personality disorder and narcissistic personality disorder. And we'll be engaging
0:55.0	with both Christian and secular perspectives. So what happens when psychiatry meets theology?
1:03.4	And how do categories like meaning, identity, and belief shape the path to healing?
1:08.8	Joining me today are two leading psychiatrists who are also colleagues
1:12.4	and friends, but who bring different worldviews to the same clinical work. Please note that this
1:19.3	episode may include discussion of suicide, self-harm, and psychological distress. Please take care
1:25.6	as you listen and be especially mindful if you're
1:28.7	tuning in with younger listeners. Now let me introduce you to these two outstanding guests. Dr.
1:35.3	Claire Brickle specializes in the treatment of severe personality disorders. She works at the
1:40.7	Gunderson residence in Cambridge, Massachusetts, part of McLean Hospital, and she's deeply
1:45.7	interested in how psychiatric treatment touches on questions of good and evil, who deserves
1:50.8	happiness, and how people build meaning in a chaotic world. My other guest, Dr. Brandon Unruh,
1:57.3	is medical director at the Gunderson residence and an instructor in psychiatry
2:01.9	at Harvard Medical School. He is a co-developer of mentalization-based treatment for pathological
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