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Welcome to this episode of Kennedy Saves the World.

I read an excerpt from a brand new book that was, the excerpt was so fascinating.

I had to get the book.

And now I'm lucky enough to be talking to the author, Ian O'Connor, out of the Darkness, the mystery of Aaron Rogers. There's the book. There's Aaron Rogers. There's Ian O'Connor's name. Ian, welcome to Kennedy, saves the world. Oh, great beyond Kennedy. How are you? So you've written a lot of sports books. You know, you've written not just football. You've written about Derek Jeter, saw him this weekend at the old timers game at Yankee Stadium. Belichick is that your best selling book to date?

Actually, Jeter is. I don't blame. I don't blame anyone. What a wonderful person, Derek Jeter is, to be contrasted with Aaron Rogers, who is a mystery, but he's

also incredibly fascinating. And I want to know from you, because obviously when you're pouring

yourself into hundreds and hundreds of interviews and you're spending so much time on one

person, how do you decide on Aaron Rogers when there are so many characters

within sports, you know, across the world? How did you zero in on his story? Well, to start with

the iconic code to the Green Bay Packers, Vince Lombardi, Coast of my school, and also lived about

eight houses down from where I grew up. So I was always fascinated by Packers, Vince Lombardi, Coaston School, and also lived about eight houses down from

where I grew up. So I was always fascinated by Packers Mystique and Aura and all those things.

And so I wanted to write a Packers book at some point in my career. Aaron got traded into my

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