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The Bunker

Can Superman save us now? – The Man of Steel vs the Age of Trump

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 27 June 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

On July 11, Superman flies back into cinemas in his third reboot – but this time, he’s different. Director James Gunn promises a beacon of hope, kindness, and decency, a sharp contrast to the grim hero we last saw. How will a reborn idealistic Man of Steel land in the most cynical American moment of the modern era? How has Superman changed in his 87 years in comics, movies and radio? And can he save the American Way from a real-life supervillain in the White House? Ian Gordon, author of Superman: The Persistence of an American Icon ,  joins fellow comics addict Andrew Harrison in The Bunker’s Fortress of Solitude.  IAN GORDON’S SUPERMAN STARTER LIST • Action Comics #1 [[ ]]  (June 1938)  • “Must There Be a Superman?” Superman #247 (January 1972) – In Superman: The Greatest Stories Ever Told • Superman (1978) the film • “Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow?”  (Superman #423 and Action Comics #583, September 1986) • Kingdom Come (1996) • All Star Superman #1-12 (2005) • Support us on Patreon for early episodes and more. • We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker to get your £100 sponsored credit.   Written and presented by Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Audio production by Tom Taylor. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome back to the bonker news Without the Nonsense, five days a week.

0:22.6

Well, maybe a little bit of nonsense, because what is life without dreams, beauty, flights

0:27.7

of imagination, and heroic fantasy role models who reflect our idea of our best selves back to us?

0:34.4

On July the 11th, Superman returns to cinemas in what is technically the third

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reboot of the beloved character, who was created in 1933 by young writer Jerry Siegel and

0:43.2

artist Joe Schuster while there were high school students in Cleveland. In sharp contrast to the dismal

0:48.9

downbeat Superman we saw last time, director James Gunn says his version of the character will embody hope, kindness and

0:55.4

compassion, a super optimistic, super decent, super good guy, who arrives in cinemas, although it wasn't

1:01.5

planned this way, are perhaps the most debased moments in modern American history. This Superman

1:06.4

may even be super woke. So why does the character as Superman, with his multiple identities, Clark Kent,

1:11.9

the nerdy reporter, Calell, the lonely last survivor of an alien race, and of course the man of steel,

1:17.0

keep resonating so powerfully over the decades? Why do people love him? How has he changed?

1:22.7

And how will he land at a time when, as we've discussed often on this podcast, the actual

1:27.3

real-life president

1:28.4

is so corrupt and cynical, he might as well be a super villain himself. He is, after all,

1:33.2

a real estate developer who has his faults. Here to Neil Before Pod is Ian Gordon, author

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of Superman, The Persistence of an American icon and a cultural historian. He joins me Zray from

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Singapore.

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Hello, Ian.

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Welcome to our Fortress of Solitude.

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