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Can psychology boost vaccination rates?

Discovery

BBC

Science, Technology

4.31.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In the 1950s a batch of polio vaccine in the US was made badly, resulting in 10 deaths and the permanent paralysis of 164 people. Paul Offit, a paediatrician in Philadelphia, says the disaster did not turn people away from vaccines. He believes that current vaccine hesitancy needs to be tackled online - where fake news spreads quickly. The German state of Brandenburg wants to make pre-school vaccinations compulsory - like neighbouring France and Italy - because immunisation rates there dropped to 73%. But some doctors believe busy parents can instead be gently persuaded to take up vaccines. Perhaps this is where psychological research can play a role. Sander van der Linden, Director of the Cambridge Social Decision Making Lab in the UK, is working on an online game which "inoculates" people against fake news - by showing them how they can be manipulated online. He says the effects last about 6 weeks - so a "booster" may be necessary. Head of the Vaccine Confidence Project Heidi Larson applauds 18 year old American Ethan Lindenberger who decided to get vaccinated despite his own mother's anti-vax views which he says she got from reading church and internet anti-vaccination groups rather than from the medical profession. Producer: Paula McGrath Picture: A vial of measles, mumps and rubella vaccine and an information sheet, Boston Children's Hospital in Boston, Massachusetts February 26, 2015. Credit: Reuters / Brian Snyder / File Photo

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0:27.8

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0:31.5

Hi there, I'm Claudia Hammond, and this is the podcast Discovery from the BBC.

0:36.0

Today we're looking at vaccination as you've been hearing on the BBC in the last week in pockets of some countries such as the US, France and Italy, a minority of people

0:45.3

are deciding not to get their children vaccinated despite the evidence.

0:49.2

You only have to look online to find plenty of misinformation about vaccines and in this

0:54.2

program we're asking how best to counter it. This war is being fought in social media

0:58.3

so I think we have to as public health officials and child advocates do everything we can to try and get good

1:04.7

information to that venue, but that's where the war is being fluent.

1:08.3

And does compulsory vaccination work or are there better ways of gently encouraging people to get their children

1:14.3

vaccinated? First I want to take a moment to go back in time. Vaccines have a good

1:19.6

safety record but there have been occasional incidents where things have

1:23.4

gone very wrong. Now they don't always lead to the public turning against

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