Welcome to the global phenomenon, surviving the survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of True Cry.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joy Waldman.

What's up SDS Nation and welcome to another live episode of Surviving the

Survivor of the podcast that promises to bring you the very best guess in true crime. It is not a

tagline. It is our reality here. Night in, night out, day in, day out, day out

consistently bringing you the best panels in all of true

crime I am the the Larry King of the true crime world if I could only be so

lucky interviewing the experts I'm just kind of the dumb idiot with a

microphone. I should have a better microphone, but I don't. But anyway, appreciate everybody

being here and we're going to jump into this tonight.

We're getting to the proverbial light at the end of the tunnel.

I have a feeling that we are not going to, that the defense here is going to wrap by Monday if not Tuesday and the jury is going to get this in their

hands to chew on. We had Ben Chu last night who successfully defended Johnny Depp in his defamation

lawsuit a brilliant legal mind. He was here last night and I do think that the jurors will get this to deliberate slash chew on as early as possibly Tuesday of next week.

So we're almost there.

For those who do not know, back on January 29,

2022, Boston Police Officer John O'Keefe

was found dead outside of a home at 34 Fairview Road

in Canton, Massachusetts.

And since then, with the help of some reporting

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