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The Daily

Can Government Spending Save the Economy?

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2020

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

As the American economy plunges toward a recession, economists and policymakers are triaging proposals to stanch the bleeding. All of their ideas will cost money the government doesn’t have. That leaves Democrats and Republicans with two major questions: How much should be borrowed for bailouts — and what spending is needed to avoid permanent economic damage? Guest: Ben Casselman, an economics reporter at The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily Background reading: Jerome H. Powell, the Federal Reserve chair, has urged Congress to spend more on economic relief — even if doing so means increasing the federal deficit. He warned that the United States was experiencing an economic hit “without modern precedent.”

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0:00.0

From New York Times, I'm Michael Bavaro. This is Daily.

0:09.3

Today, saving the U.S. economy from the fallout of the pandemic

0:15.5

may require a historic infusion of cash. Ben Castleman on the debate over that spending.

0:24.8

It's Monday, May 18th.

0:35.0

Ben, we're talking to you on Friday morning and a bunch of big, ugly economic numbers just

0:42.7

came out this morning. So we wanted to sift through them with you.

0:46.0

Yeah, it's been a pretty dark morning for the economy.

0:49.6

Where do you think we should start?

0:51.0

Maybe the place to start is actually on Thursday.

0:54.9

We turn out of the economy nearly 3 million more Americans filed for unemployment benefits last week.

1:00.8

But when we learned that another 3 million Americans had filed for unemployment benefits.

1:08.4

That's more than 36 million people in two months.

1:11.5

We're two months into this crisis and yet we are still losing millions of jobs every week.

1:19.5

For eight straight weeks now, jobless claims have been in the millions with 3 million more people

1:24.1

filing for unemployment last week.

1:26.2

Right, every week, every week.

1:28.8

This did not happen naturally.

1:30.9

All of these companies didn't just go out of business because demand disappeared.

1:35.1

We turned our economy off.

1:36.9

Right, think about New York, think about the state of California.

1:39.6

If you ran a restaurant, a mini golf course or a clothing store, there's a really good

1:44.7

chance you would have laid your workers off.

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