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For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Can Faith Withstand Doubt? Mike McHargue’s Journey to Atheism and Back

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

Jen Hatmaker

Relationships, Society & Culture

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2019

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

When Mike McHargue, AKA Science Mike of The Liturgists Podcast, stopped by to visit with Jen, we knew we were in for some mind-bending stuff. After all, you don’t go from a Southern Baptist deacon to an atheist back to a follower of Jesus without gaining some wisdom along the way. But in our next installment of For the Love of Faith Groundbreakers, Science Mike helps us understand the kind of God we believe in, whether he is angry or loving, has a profound effect not only on the way we view the world, but the actual way our brain functions. *cue mind-blowing explosion* Along with his brilliant insights, Mike shares his faith journey and how he navigated the most difficult parts of his changing views—including why he stayed at church, despite his nonbelief—and how a trip to NASA and a night on the Pacific Ocean helped him re-meet God in a whole new way. Like Mike, so many of us have asked tough questions, and maybe have meandered through spaces of doubt and uncertainty. Mike reminds us we can be kind, conscientious people no matter where we find ourselves on our faith journeys, and we can have wandering seasons and still be okay.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everybody, my name is Remy.

0:03.6

Welcome to the For the Love Podcast with your host, Jen Hatmaker, my mom.

0:09.4

She writes books and speaks to counts, but she mostly loves talking to amazing people

0:14.9

on this podcast every week.

0:17.0

Thanks for listening, we hope you enjoyed the show.

0:20.2

Hey you guys, Jen Hatmaker here, host of For the Love Podcast.

0:24.8

So glad that you're here, welcome to the show.

0:27.3

We are in the middle of a series that you guys are just giving us so much buzz about.

0:34.5

It's called For the Love of Faith Groundbreakers.

0:37.2

You may remember if you've been listening for a while last year, we had another faith series

0:40.8

that was so dynamite.

0:42.6

It was twice as long as our normal series because there was just so much in it.

0:48.6

And a ton of you requested another faith series.

0:52.6

And so I was super happy to oblige because I live for this space, obviously.

0:56.6

Listening to wise teachers asking some questions that don't always have clear answers.

1:02.7

These conversations are so good for my soul, but they also light a fire under me and they

1:07.1

can pick me to want to know more and do better.

1:10.3

And especially the listen to voices that have different experiences from my own different

1:15.4

perspectives, different interpretations.

1:17.5

So every single one of the guests in this series has stepped outside whatever comfort

1:23.5

zone exists for them in their sort of subculture of faith.

1:28.7

And have leaned in to new or challenging spaces, even uncomfortable.

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