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Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Can Christians Unite On This Issue?

Wretched Radio with Todd Friel

Fortis Institute

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Segment 1 • Todd and Scott show that friendship can be retained through disagreements. • Sarcasm, speed, and shallow online takes destroy meaningful conversations. • The gospel must be at the front of pro-life work. Segment 2 • Atheists can follow the logic of pro-life arguments—but without God, they borrow Christian morality. • Scott sees pro-life work as a Great Commission issue, not just a cultural cause. • Gospel clarity matters: imputed righteousness vs. infused goodness makes all the difference. Segment 3 • Can Christians work with Catholics, rabbis, and others on pro-life issues without endorsing false unity? • Scott speaks at ecumenical events, but maintains theological distinctions. • Abolition vs. incrementalism isn’t a moral divide. We all want the same outcome. Segment 4 • Everyone’s an abolitionist in principle, but our political reality often forces incremental action. • True moral conviction works within constraints to save as many as possible. • Incremental efforts have saved lives, and abandoning them over idealism can cost more innocent lives. ___ Thanks for listening! Wretched Radio would not be possible without the financial support of our Gospel Partners. If you would like to support Wretched Radio we would be extremely grateful. VISIT https://fortisinstitute.org/donate/ If you are already a Gospel Partner we couldn’t be more thankful for you if we tried! .

Transcript

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0:00.0

Ritchard Radio begins in three, two, one.

0:08.8

So it's not a sin in your church you have an abortion?

0:11.3

That's the kind of conversation we would have

0:13.1

finding out your story, where you're from.

0:16.2

God's the judge.

0:17.3

People have to live with their own conviction.

0:19.1

The science is clear.

0:20.5

The Bible is clear.

0:21.9

And if we're honest, our intuitions are clear. We know what we're killing. We're killing a human

0:29.0

being. It's time for Wretched Radio with Todd Freel. What's the most important pro-life question

0:35.8

no one seems to be asking right now. This is Wretched Radio and

0:40.6

no, no, I'm not Todd Friel. I'm Jimmy Hicks and this is going to be a little bit different today.

0:45.9

We are going to listen in on a conversation that Todd had with the president of the Life Training

0:52.1

Institute and host of our Life is Best Resource,

0:56.2

Scott Klusendorf.

0:57.3

Those two got together and recorded an episode of Breaking Bread,

1:00.7

and we are going to take the opportunity to listen in on this conversation

1:04.7

because I think it's a vital conversation,

1:06.9

especially with how the world has been changing just this year.

1:11.1

Well, Mr. Klusendorf, can I call you Mr. Klusendorf?

1:14.2

It sounds so germane to the subject.

1:16.4

I've discovered something else we disagree on.

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