Welcome to part two of my special conversation with Preston Sprinkle about some of the most pressing issues today tied to the LGBTQ conversation.

If you miss it, last week we talked about how the conversation has shifted and the debate around preferred pronouns.

This week we go into depth talking about what's called gay identity. This is

really dividing the church today. Should Christians with same sex attraction refer to themselves

as gay? Is this biblical? Is this wise? Is this permissible? Preston Sprinkle and I have a friendly

debate where we dive into the weeds and agree with me or agree with him.

I think you'll find this interesting and you'll find this helpful.

Enjoy the dialogue.

Okay, so there's one question I want to ask you.

I guess I've got to get up to the mic here, is I've heard you explain

yourself when speaking. You'll say I'm a white, male, Christian, heterosexual, cisgender,

or something like that. Correct me if I don't describe it. I don't use cisgender as a self.

You don't say you're cisgender. You don't use that language. So you tell me why not.

It assumes an ideology I don't agree with. So you don't say you're cisgender. You don't use that language? I don't like that term now. So you tell me why not? It assumes an ideology I don't agree with.

So you don't describe yourself.

I could have sworn I've heard you at a conference say I'm a cisgender.

If I did, I might have, I might have, but not in several years because I don't.

Okay.

I think it was at ETS a few years ago. I remember hearing you say that.

Yeah, so that would be something I'd change on.

And I took issue with that because I'm like, wait a minute, that language is implying that there's two ways.

And I wouldn't say white.

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