You are listening to Hit Play, Not Pause, a feisty menopause podcast for active performance-minded women.

I am your host, Celine Yeager. Each week, I bring you advice from athletes, scientists, researchers,

and other experts to help you feel and perform your best, no matter what your hormones are doing.

This show is a production of Live Feisty Media.

Hello, strong feisty women.

So this week, we're going to therapy.

Specifically, cognitive behavioral therapy, as well as other

therapies that can have a huge positive benefit for menopausal women.

Cognitive behavioral therapy has come up a lot on this show.

In my conversation with Dr. Jen Gunter, author of The Menopause Manifesto, she told me that

cognitive behavioral therapy can help women deal with disruptive symptoms like hot flashes,

almost as well as other therapies can. And in my show with sleep scientist, Dr. Sophie Bostock,

she talked about how cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia can work wonders for

helping women improve their sleep. In fact, a 2018 study found it worked better than other

interventions, including hormone and antidepressant therapy, for helping menopausal women treat

insomnia. But if I'm honest, I didn't really know what cognitive behavioral therapy was.

And I figured if I didn't know, I probably wasn't alone. So I called up this week's guest,

Dr. Alicia Bross, a licensed psychologist and founding partner of the Boulder Center for

Cognitive and Behavioral Therapies, because that

seemed like someone who would know what it was. She specializes in behavioral therapies for mood,

anxiety, and sleep disorders. She is also the co-author of End the Insomnia Struggle, a step-by-step

guide to help you get to sleep and stay asleep.

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