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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Calm in the Storm - with Sam Harris

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Society & Culture

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

A solemn week for Israel, marked by mourning – and yet politics, as ever, presses on. At the centre: a widening rift between Prime Minister Netanyahu and the head of the Shin Bet, Israel’s domestic intelligence agency. In our conversation this week, we widen the lens. Sam Harris – neuroscientist, bestselling author and host of the Making Sense podcast – joins us to talk religion, politics and the elusive art of clear thinking in a time of sound and fury. Plus: our Chutzpah of the Week award goes to those who seem to have forgotten the basic dignity owed to the sick, while our Mensch accolade is shared by two groups standing firm in defence of their values – even when it’s hardest.

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0:00.0

A solemn week for Israel, of course, that doesn't stop the politics, which centres now on a standoff between the Prime Minister and his domestic intelligence chief.

0:09.2

It's only intensifying. Plus, we have an interview with the best-selling author and podcaster Sam Harris.

0:16.9

It's unholy. I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.

0:20.5

And I'm Unite Levy in Tel Aviv.

0:33.0

Unholy, Two Jews on the News.

0:34.4

Before we talk about anything else, we should say to our reminder listeners

0:38.8

that our very first live event after four virtual years will be in the same stage in London

0:46.3

at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, June 8th, and our star-studded lineup that we have talked about this week.

0:53.1

Q drum roll.

0:55.3

Yes, thank you.

0:56.4

That's very helpful.

1:00.9

Because also Jonathan was a drummer in his early years.

1:02.1

No one's going to believe that.

1:03.8

No one's going to believe that because it's not true.

1:04.3

No, go on.

1:05.1

I interrupted you.

1:06.5

Our fabulous lineup.

1:15.3

Historian and author, Yuvalno Harari, West End star Andy Nyman, and singer Mira Awad.

1:19.5

We're really, really excited about all these names who will join us, as I said, on June 8th.

1:21.4

Yeah, we're really looking forward to that.

1:27.3

For one thing, it's just a massive event for us to be in the same room, let alone the same stage.

1:32.7

It's such a massive event. We thought we'd just invite hundreds of people to just share in that moment, that, you know, historic moment. Just to see that. But no, it's going to be terrific to have

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