This is a bonus episode of the Daily Signal Podcast. I'm Elizabeth Mitchell and I recently sat down with the founder and executive director of the Center for Baptist leadership, William Wolf. We talked about conserving biblical values within the world's

largest Protestant organization, the Southern Baptist Convention.

William Wolf has served in the Trump administration as a director at the State Department

and as a Deputy assistant secretary of defense

at the Department of Defense.

Let's get to my conversation with William Wolf.

I'm here with William Wolf. The 2024 Southern Baptist Convention wrapped up a few weeks

ago with the SBC narrowly rejecting a ban on female pastors. Why do you think this happened and what

do you expect the S. B. C. to decide on the subject going forward?

Yeah, thank you. Thanks for having me on and so I would try to clarify that just a little bit.

So in the Southern Baptist Convention's statement of faith, it does affirm that we believe only men can be pastors.

That's what we call our Baptist faith and message 2000.

However, over the last decade, plus there's been a rising tide

of women pastors in the Southern Baptist Convention, the theological

term we use for that as egalitarianism, and that is in contradiction to our statement of faith.

And so a local pastor Mike Law led an effort to our and to actually by amending our Constitution give some more clear direction to one of the main

committees in Southern Baptist life that deals with these issues and so while the constitutional

amendment failed on its second vote it had to get 66% to pass two

years in a row, I wouldn't say that this means that we so much rejected a ban on women

pastors as we fail to more clearly articulate what we believe on this.

Now why that happened I think is because there is quite a variety of liberal leadership in the Southern Baptist Convention and they really

spent the last year working hard against it in a way they hadn't the year prior and I think the confusion

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