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Call Me Back: The Story of American Antizionism – with Shaul Kelner

The Ricochet Superfeed

Ricochet

News, Politics

4.4651 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2026

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Is Antizionism a Soviet invention for persecuting Jews? Dan is joined by Shaul Kelner, professor of Jewish studies and sociology at Vanderbilt University, to examine the rarely-told history of Antizionism. Kelner explains how a framework designed to deny Jewish life under Soviet rule has resurfaced in the West long before October 7 and why many […]

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0:00.0

Before we start, I wanted to remind our listeners that we are in the process of growing

0:04.4

ARC media and are actively looking to fill multiple new roles, including producers,

0:09.1

a writer, and community manager.

0:11.3

In fact, we just opened the search for another role, news producer.

0:16.1

So if you're interested in being part of the future of ARCMedia, please go to our careers portal on arcmedia.org

0:22.7

and apply.

0:27.6

You are listening to an ArtMedia podcast.

0:32.1

If you're going to call yourself an anti-Zionist, you need to own the history of

0:35.7

anti-Zionism. But that requires education.

0:38.0

We teach Nazi anti-Semitism really well. We do not teach the history of the Soviet persecutions

0:42.8

of Jews. We don't teach the history of Islamist persecutions of Jews. Are we surprised then

0:48.8

that our kids don't know it and are willing to align with this stuff?

1:04.1

It's 9.30 a.m. on Wednesday, January 28th here in New York City, it's 4.30 p.m. in Israel as the body of the last hostage from

1:13.4

Gaza, Ron Gvili, arrives in his Negev hometown of Meitar for burial. After 843 days, 12 hours,

1:23.4

and six minutes, the clock at Hostages Square on Monday went dark with Ron Gvili's return.

1:31.7

In a eulogy to his son today, Izikvili, the father of Ron Gvili, said, and I quote,

1:37.1

when we opened the coffin and touched you for the first time in two and a half years, it was

1:42.2

completely intact. Itzikvili said that IDF units

1:47.0

dug up 250 graves in the Gaza City Cemetery where his son's body was buried in their quest

1:53.9

to find him, and that the number 250 is the numerical value of his son's name, Ron, in Hebrew letters.

2:02.1

In a wide-ranging interview Tuesday evening, following the return of the final slain hostage,

2:07.8

Ron Gvili, Prime Minister Netanyahu said that Israel will not allow Gaza's reconstruction

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