Just do what makes you happy.

Try not to worry about results all the time because I feel like that's what

that's what ruins things for people is whenever you're just like bogged down by the validation aspect of it. Let me let it out, when I let it out

let it out of my room. Let it go.

Hi. Okay. This week I have my friend, my neighbor, Kale Tyson, over, and we sat at my kitchen table to record this conversation that you're about to hear.

He is a musician, he's been making pottery, he recently wrote a book, which we talk about in this, and he does a bunch of things, which I'll

let him tell you in a second. He is really sweet. He's a real gentle guy who makes me laugh,

and I like a lot, and I think you will too. Kale is super open in this about addiction and going to rehab and what got him to that

point, which means we talk about drugs. So if you're listening around people or children or someone

who, you know, you might not want to have that on your speaker, just a heads up, put your headphones

in. It's not a dare class or anything. Drugs are cool. You know, everybody's different,

do whatever. But he just shares his really honest experience with recovery and there's a lot

of wisdom in that. And it's a really great story.

And I'm grateful that he told it here and that you're here listening.

So thank you so much.

And here's my conversation with my friend Kale recorded just last week here in my apartment.

I was saying to you before we started recording that I see you often and we had a real stretch there for a while when we would see each other

so frequently on the street all the time I feel like there was one day that I saw you twice for

sure happened maybe multiple times but like to the point where it was like all right hi again like

hi we've done this twice already.

Yeah, that's like Figueroa in a nutshell. I feel like I was always, especially when I lived over

here, I would literally just like wake up and just walk to the street and start walking down.

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