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Hidden Forces

Cal Newport | Digital Minimalism: Choosing Life in a Hyperconnected World

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2019

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 77 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Cal Newport about his latest book, Digital Minimalism and the act of "choosing life" in a hyperconnected world.

"The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation," writes, transcendentalist author and essayist Henry David Thoreau, in the first chapter of Walden titled, "Economy." "But men labor under a mistake...the improvements of ages have had but little influence on the essential laws of man's existence." In an effort to uncover those "essential laws" Thoreau went to the woods: "I wished to live deliberately," he says, "to front only the essential facts of life, and see if I could not learn what it had to teach, and not, when I came to die, discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life, living is so dear;"

What is often missed in Thoreau's reflections from his 2-year excursion into the woodlands of Concord, Massachusetts, is the rigor with which he calculated, measured, and weighed those "essential facts of life." Philosopher Frédéric Gros calls Thoreau's "New Economics," a theory that builds on the following axiom, which Thoreau establishes early in Walden: "The cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life which is required to be exchanged for it, immediately or in the long run." "The striking thing with Thoreau," Gros argues, "is not the actual content of the argument. After all, sages in earliest Antiquity had already proclaimed their contempt for possessions…what impresses is the form of the argument. For Thoreau's obsession with calculation runs deep…he says: keep calculating, keep weighing. What exactly do I gain, or lose?"

In the century and a half since its publication, Thoreau's economics – his methodology for apprehending the cost of a thing by weighing and measuring it against the dearness of life's value – has been supplanted by allegiance to growth at all costs. But unlike the "mass of men" about which Thoreau writes in the mid-19th century, today's society is burdened by more than just the labor of miscalculation. In today's hyperconnected, surveillance economy, the mass of humanity has lost autonomy over that calculation, ceding authority to the commands of a new technocracy that governs the behavioral forces of our primitive biology through platforms scientifically engineered for addiction, supervision, and control.

Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas

Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou

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It is in the first chapter of Walden titled Economy that the transcendentalist author and essayist Henry

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David Thoreau famously tells us that, quote, the mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

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But men labor under a mistake, he writes earlier.

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The improvements of ages have had but little influence on the essential laws of man's existence.

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And so Thoreau went to the woods.

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I wish to live deliberately, he said, to front only the essential facts of life and see if I could not learn what it had to

1:16.8

teach and not when I came to die discover that I had not lived. I did not wish to live what was not life living is so dear. What is often

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missed and throws reflections from his two-year excursion into the woodlands of Concord, Massachusetts

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is the rigor with which he calculated, measured, and weighed those essential facts of life.

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Philosopher Friedrich Gros

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calls Thoreau's new economics a theory

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that builds on an axiom which Thoreau establishes

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early in Walden.

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The cost of a thing is the amount of what I will call life, which is required to be exchanged

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for it immediately or in the long run. A striking thing with the row, writes Grow, is not the actual content of the argument.

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After all, Sages in earliest antiquity had already proclaimed their contempt for possessions.

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