I'm Krista Tippett, today discovering where we live, reimagining environmentalism.

My guests are linking everyday life and ecology in new ways from southern Wisconsin to the

south Bronx.

Calvin DeWitt is transforming a rural wetland and bringing environmental science to evangelical

Christianity.

And from one of the poorest and most toxic neighborhoods in the US, Majora Carter is changing

the face of the environmental movement.

You do have to make it relevant.

Like it's not this pie in the sky, I think it's, you know, bleat me, I think that the

rainforest in Brazil should be protected.

But it's too far, you know, from the general daily lives of so many people, especially poor

people living in their communities, whether they're living in the south Bronx.

You know, it's like you've got to meet people where they are.

This is speaking of faith.

Stay with us.

I'm Krista Tippett.

This hour we revisit my conversation with two people who haven't waited for climate

change to transform their immediate world.

One is unraveling ties between ecology and injustice in the south Bronx.

The other is a scientist and evangelical Christian in South Central Wisconsin.

There's are not trendy or elite forms of environmentally conscious consumption.

There are ways of living that nurture our societal framework and its relation to daily life

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