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Welcome to Real Jam Radio. I am Daniel were your host and so happy to have you with us for this episode. My guest is the great Caitlin Cooper of the basketball she wrote

Patreon and my go-to person on the Indiana Pacers and after their wonderful performance in the in-season tournament

slash NBA Cup, whatever you want to call it. I really wanted to have her on not only to

discuss the ramifications of that, and of course her analysis there is fantastic, but also

taking stock of the Pacers roughly 20 games in and what's gone well, what's gone poorly.

Conversation goes in so many great directions, despite not being particularly long,

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