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Zach Sang Show

CA7RIEL & Paco Amoroso Talk Tiny Desk, Chads, Coachella, and EP ‘PAPOTA’

Zach Sang Show

Sangasong, LLC

Tv & Film, Music

4.7658 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Meet CA7RIEL & Paco Amoroso, aka Catriel Guerreiro and Ulises Guerriero, an Argentinian duo who have been buds since finding themselves in the same music school as kids with the same last name.


Although the pair first emerged in this iteration back in 2018, it wasn’t until Autumn 2024 when they headed into the NPR offices to reimagine their music for the Tiny Desk Concert format that C&P became a global concern. It’s a performance that forms the basis of their latest EP, PAPOTA, a performance that distills both their cheeky attitude and wry sense of humor with their eclectic musicianship and eye-catching sense of style. To date the video has 39 million views and counting.


We caught up with the twosome to talk about their beginnings in Buenos Aires, how Tiny Desk changed their life, their first ever US live performances being at Coachella 2025 (casual), and how K-pop and Queen alike have influenced their music.


If you haven’t listened to their latest EP PAPOTA, you must, and better yet, watch the short film that accompanies the EP. It’s a piece that really captures the essence of CA7RIEL & Paco — their absurd, surrealist, smutty humor, depicting a world populated by Chads (watch the interview to get the rundown on Chads), who are obsessed with chicken and steroids. We talk about all this plus imposter syndrome, Zoolander and Elvis, Barbra Streisand and Sharon Stone, obsessive fans, the thrill of inspiring negative reactions, plus so much more.


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0:00.0

Hi, beautiful human. How are you? Happy day. Happy Monday. To you and to those you love. The Zach

0:17.9

Sang, she was here. Going through speakers, headphones, right into your ears.

0:21.0

Thanks for having us. Yeah, I'm in your ear. Yeah, it really means a lot of another weekend behind us, a fresh week ahead of us. Let's make it a good one. Yeah, make it a good week. No, seriously. Feeling good about it. Mercury has retrograded. Is that true? I don't know. It sounded good. No, but there is a lot like, you know, I'm very much into the astrology, or at least the astrology that comes through my algorithm via TikTok Cameron. And there is something going on at least for tourists. Like, I'm supposed to have a good quarter four, you know, because it's been rough for the last few quarters, the last couple of years to be frank. um but but there's they're saying my favorite lady she's this older woman with these big glasses with like diamond rhinestones around the lenses um I'm thinking about doing like a one-on-one reading maybe I could do it here on the show that wasting your money on dumb things that Dan it's's like, Dan, it could be 50 bucks, you know?

1:11.6

Like, and she can give me the answers I've been seeking.

1:14.1

Ready, I'll do it right now. Let me read you, okay? You're a what? A Prius? Yeah, there we go. I'm a tourist. I think that something changes afoot. No, that's not. I don't want that. New beginnings are ahead.

1:08.3

No.

1:08.7

That's what they tell you.

1:09.6

They convince you they know what they're doing just for you to buy in again.

1:12.3

Whatever difficulty you're handling now will handle itself. I just feel like she's giving me a lot of answers via the algorithm, right? Which is not tailored to me. It's tailored to the general tourist sign. So I feel like she really could do some unpacking and uncovering if we were to like just sit down one-on-one via the, you know, a chat machine. See, I don't want to talk to one of those people. I want to talk to, what are they called, the medium? Yeah. Where they can like, you know, connect you to spirits and everything. That's what I want to do. We should have our girl, Patty Nagry back on. She would love that. I gotta say, she milks the living crap out of these clips.

1:44.5

We did two things with her.

1:46.1

How much... Nagry back on. She would love that. I got to say, she milks the living crap out of these clips. We did two things with her. How many years ago, Dan, now? A hundred at this point. I mean, it asked to me. She's still using it. I'm like there yesterday. I mean, every week, she's reposting another piece of her. I want her to talk to my family. You got a 90-year-old smoker in the building in Allie Gold. I know, sorry. I was on a bachelorette trip so my voice sounds worse. Yeah. Lots of karaoke. Smoking a lot of carri-yoke. In Tahoe. In Tahoe, yeah. Okay, so this woman, Patty, I got to say, whatever she did to us that day, literally a stone sir away in our old studio from where we're currently hanging out, whatever she did, like, stayed with me for days.

2:40.2

Like, she put this oil on my forehead to open our portal in our third eye.

2:44.2

And I swear to, I swear to everything.

2:47.8

I felt this.

2:49.2

I felt it for days. I walked around my neighborhood feeling like things

2:53.7

were coming through me. And I was like talking and channeling things. It was crazy. That's the day that

2:58.7

everything turns south. Yeah. Dude, maybe my- Get her ass back in here. Maybe my life was different

3:03.3

for that moment on. I'm telling you. And maybe we should have her to come back in to just recalibrate or, you know, re-explore.

3:10.3

And to be honest, like a lot has changed since then.

3:13.4

It's like the freakier Friday where, like, the portal never closed.

3:16.3

Yep.

3:16.8

We're still switched.

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