BYU Cracks Down on Liberal Professors | Ep. 1980
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 6 January 2025
⏱️ 158 minutes
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Summary
A recent article from the Salt Lake Tribune showcases how the Mormon church education commissioner Clark Gilbert has implemented stringent measures to ensure that faculty members across church-affiliated institutions, including Brigham Young University and BYU-Idaho, align with the church’s teachings. Professors are now facing many hardships. Their social media posts are being audited, many are being fired for showing LGBTQ+ and feminist support, or for experiencing doubts in their Mormon beliefs. Some professors are being terminated simply because their spouse stopped believing in the church. Top scholars no longer want to apply to BYU and many professors are seeking employment elsewhere. These changes have led many to argue that this approach suppresses academic freedom and creates an environment of fear among BYU faculty members, who may feel pressured to conform to specific interpretations of Mormon church doctrinal teachings to maintain their position.Join us today as we talk in-depth about these controversies and the recent news article from the Salt Lake Tribune titled "Dark Days: BYU professors are running scared as premier LDS school steps backwards." According to the US and World News Report, BYU ranked #61 in 2017 and then dropped to #109 in 2024 out of 436 National Universities, but are these new changes going to drop the university's ranking? Join the livestream to share your own personal experiences in this regard!Link to the original article: https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2025/01/05/byu-blue-why-these-are-dark-days/
00:02:57 Biography of Clark Gilbert as the Mormon church education commissioner
00:08:22 Clip - Elder Holland calling for more musket fire
00:25:10 Clip of Oaks and Eyring comparing the church to standing the wrong way in an elevator
00:31:22 Reading the article from Salt Lake Tribune “Dark Days: New Rules…”
00:39:35 Shutting down the ability to be honest and asking the professors to be unChristlike
00:49:04 The Mormon church favors obedience over all things
00:51:44 If the church continues this way it would be less like Notre Dame and more like Liberty University
01:02:50 The four groups of BYU faculty members (the faithful core, the supportive center, the secular first and open foes)
01:13:05 The process of hiring at any Mormon church university
01:19:25 Could these specific things (LGBTQ support, criticizing Trump, being a feminist, etc) get BYU professors in trouble?
01:32:00 Are women being singled out to not be hired at BYU?
01:36:00 Spouses being required to attend in prospective hire interviews at Mormon universities
01:41:20 Creepy and Orwellian aspects of the BYU hiring practices
01:58:00 ExMormon Reddit - The firing of the BYU-Idaho employees is a warning shot to Rexburg. Support your family and risk everything
02:00:15 ExMormon Reddit - Kevin Pearson and Clark Gilbert are encouraging an orthodox, fundamentalist, approach to their responsibilities
02:10:05 Some positive comments on Clark Gilbert
02:30:17 Don’t go to BYU, do not apply or attend this university
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of Mormon stories podcast. |
| 0:03.9 | I'm your host, John DeLinn. |
| 0:05.1 | It is January 6th, 2025. |
| 0:09.0 | Happy New Year. |
| 0:10.6 | And today we are going to be covering an episode that the thumbnail basically says |
| 0:17.6 | Harvard's Clark Gilbert terrorizes BYU professors. |
| 0:22.5 | The real impetus for this episode comes from a Salt Lake Tribune article that dropped just over the weekend. |
| 0:34.6 | The Salt Lake Tribune article says, |
| 0:36.2 | Dark Days, new rules have BYU professors running scared. |
| 0:42.3 | Clark Gilbert, the Mormon Church's education commissioner, |
| 0:46.0 | is determined to have faculty members who support the faith's teachings, |
| 0:49.8 | or at least how his office interprets those teachings. |
| 0:55.3 | So, you know, as someone who attended BYU, as someone who felt like he got a really |
| 1:01.7 | good education at BYU. |
| 1:03.4 | I met my wife Margie at BYU. |
| 1:07.6 | I've historically been someone who's cared pretty deeply about BYU and its progress. |
| 1:16.6 | And so I think this is an important topic to cover. |
| 1:21.5 | What I'm basically going to be doing today is doing a combination of reading the Saltly Tribune article and also playing |
| 1:30.1 | some clips and also sharing some comments that we've been able to call off the internet |
| 1:37.5 | and and some personal comments that have been sent to me as well. |
| 1:47.4 | I'm going to ask Julian Maven to please star. |
| 1:50.4 | We want to welcome our live audience. |
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