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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka. That's me. I am part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I'm recording this from my hotel room in Huntington Beach, California, because sometimes the media business is pretty good. I'm here at the 2018 Code Media Conference. It's really nice. Lots of sun, lots of great interviews. And today you are going to hear one of those interviews for free. He didn't even have to go to California. This is a conversation I had with Jonah Paredi. He's the CEO of BuzzFeed. This is a company that had been flying very high, had a big plan about how they're going to distribute content widely across the internet and make money that way. Those plans have changed a little bit in the last year. We talked all about that. Jonah is a thoughtful, interesting guy to talk to,

and I'm glad he came on stage with us on very short notice to boot.

You can listen for free right now.

You're not a Maggie Haberman replacement,

but the original plan was I was going to talk to Maggie tonight.

So I had a whole bunch of questions about normalizing Trump.

Are you two access dependent?

How much do you tweet?

Do you be tweeting addiction?

I'm an excellent reporter.

It's pretty good.

Everyone who was here earlier heard me quote to you to the Facebook folks,

so I'm not going to repeat that quote, but I don't want to repeat a different part of this same essay.

You've given me all my notes today.

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