My saying is, if it's important to you, hire a coach.

And I think that's one of the reasons people are not successful is they, you know,

they eat a cheeseburger instead of hiring a coach, you know what I mean?

And so my coach pushes me.

They're younger than me.

They push harder.

They're trained.

And as my rich dad always said, you know, amateurs don't have a coach, but professionals always have coaches.

So I've always had coaches for whatever is important.

My rich dad was one of those persons.

I wanted to learn of how to to play monopoly in real life.

So he was my coach.

Well, Carter, you know, we have an opportunity here at the Thrive Time Show to work with

some really great business owners, people that are actually serious about growing their company.

They go to ThriveTimeshow.com and they reach out to schedule a free 13 point assessment. And

oftentimes I hop on the phone with these folks and we figure out if they're a good fit. And

once we start working with a client, our goal is to help the client to actually grow their

actual business. And on today's show, we're joined with a man who we've had the opportunity to work with. The company's called

NWA gutter perfection. And my understanding, Carter, is that they're up over 60%. Is that right?

I would say that's correct, yes. DJ, welcome on to the Thrive Time Show. How are you, sir?

Good. How are you doing, Clay? I'm doing great. So for anybody out there who is doubting whether you're a hologram

or not, what's the name of your company, sir? Dutter perfection. How did you guys first hear

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