All right, Thrive Nation on today's show.

We're talking specifically with J.T. Lawson.

We're going to do kind of a pre-show,

and then we'll get into the show here.

J.T. Lawson had the opportunity to interview a legendary dog trainer a

a celebrity dog trainer and just for full transparency J.T. Lawson and I

teamed up together and he runs and owns the

Oklahoma make your dog epic locations and so J.T. is always pursuing ongoing

education to become the best dog trainers we can possibly be and

he had an opportunity to sit down with a celebrity dog trainer so JT tell us who is

the man that you're about ready to interview on today's show. It is Joel Silverman. He is

awesome. He's done commercial with Chase. He's done a bunch of different things. He did

the Ims commercials. He has written five books. He's currently working on the sixth which he talks about on the podcast. He has trained killer wells. He's trained monkeys. He's trained birds. He's trained dogs cats. He's trained all animals and so so you get to hear from him a little bit about his life story,

but then how it all transfers into training dogs, because it's a really cool podcast.

Super interesting. Now, on part two of today's show, we're going to walk people through how to turn their passion into profits.

And this little intro video I want to play in a minute,

whenever you have a business, it has to be profitable.

Because otherwise it's just busyness.

You spell the word business, B-U-S-I-N-E-S-I.

It's all at making sure that you or I are profitable.

Business is where you don't know why, and you just keep buying things. Business is where you don't know why and you just keep buying things.

And so there's a little funny intro video I'm going to share in just a second.

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