Well, you may be considering becoming a client.

And I thought, well, one of the best ways

to make that decision is to hear from somebody

that we've actually worked with for a long, long time.

And he's become a good friend

and I'm excited for you to hear his story.

Derek Sissney, welcome on to The Thrive Time Show.

How are you, sir?

Oh, I'm doing great, sir.

Thank you for having me.

Hey, so I want to start at the end

and then we'll kind of work towards the beginning here.

So in terms of like, how did the business coaching experience

impact you personally?

When I first met you, you were working in corporate America.

And then you went to do your start, your own business

as a consultant, how did the business coaching change

your life or impact your life?

Oh, man, it was, I would say the biggest thing

that really impacted me was the fact that I had no direction.

You know, when you're, when you're doing stuff like this,

trying to create a business, you're trying to grow a business,

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