Hello and welcome to Business Daily Meets on the BBC World Service. I'm Will Bain and today we're speaking to Jay Chaudry, the CEO chairman and founder of Z-Scaler, the cloud-based cyber security company which works with firms and governments around the world to try and keep them and their customers' data safe.

Today we'll hear about his extraordinary journey from a village in the foothills of the Himalayas

with no power and water.

We got electricity after I finished my eighth grade, and I walked to school about three or four

kilometers every day.

To founding a cutting-edge technology company on the front line in the fight against cyber criminals.

In the past four, five years, the number of ransom attacks has picked up significant.

And in a world which is changing fast, how is he trying to stay ahead of the game?

AI is wonderful. AI is dangerous. The bad guys are using AI and we are using Gen AI to

fight back. That's Jay Chaudry, the founder of Z-Skaler, here on Business Daily from the BBC

World Times. Sometimes I wonder if my life is real or I'm simply dreaming. I was born in a tiny

village in the foothill of the

Himalayas in northern India. And we got electricity after I finished my eighth grade, running

water after I finished my 10th grade. My parents were small-scale farmers. But the life is pretty

simple and happy. And I walked to school about three or four kilometers

every day it just worked well I was fortunate I loved to study for whatever reason I would study

every book I could find out there so as a good student and that's why I got into engineering in one of the IIT colleges in India,

then came to the US to do my master's. Do you remember that moment, though, I suppose,

because a lot of people, a lot of tech leaders that I've interviewed over the years,

you know, they're playing around on something, whether it be, you know, a phone or an early

games console or an early thing of a

computer, you know, they're doing some coding, they're messing about presumably in your formative

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