My name is Kelly Goens and I'm the lead pastor at Faith Church in Tulso, Oklahoma.

Well I first heard about Thrive 15 from my wife. She was actually working with clay and then some

other people that I knew that had been working with him and clay reached out to me and I came in for an

initial visit and thought this is really something that would benefit us as a church. I don't have the

money for staff members to run these kind of things so having clay as a mentor and as a coach was

really something that I was interested in. We've looked into hiring people to do our media stuff

and consulting for us but it would cost us I don't know three or four thousand dollars a month to

hire someone to do this full time and then to be able to get the coaching that clay has I couldn't

hire someone to do that for me. This is a great situation for us. We have a weekly meeting where I

come in and we just collaborate. Clay helps me with ideas and coaches me through processes that we're

doing with staffing and hiring and managing our ministry. They also take care of all of our graphics,

our computer, our website, any ads that we do, any printed pieces that we do. They put those out

in a very fast clip so that we have them and we can get them mailed out or get them on our website

really quickly. So they do all that kind of stuff for us. Now another thing they also do training

of our employees and of our media people and if we ever have an issue here in the church,

they come by and troubleshoot it for us so it's really a one-stop shop for us. I would describe

Thrive 15 as a coaching mentoring network. I've pastored small churches most of my life and have

put out subpar material, websites, tried to bounce things off my wife and anybody else who would

listen. But being able to come in and have someone with this kind of experience and this kind of

know-how with this expertise and what they do in the project that they put out, it's a great

situation for us. And so I would just say to those of you who are pastors of smaller churches

and you're trying to get people to do web stuff for you or trying to get people to produce stuff

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