One other thing that I know we have in common is we're in the Mosey Nation.

We're both fans of Alex Hormosey.

I'm curious, are there other, call them influencers, people that you follow, that you steal things from, ideas from, that you learn from, that have influenced you?

There are some good ones.

I'd have to think through that. There's a gentleman

called Clay Clark named Clay Clark. He has a really, really good set. He's a business coach.

He essentially will take businesses and help him build systems, processes, procedures,

has a number of books, podcast, training.

He puts some really good content out. I love his stuff. And here's the thing about it. It's not that he's inventing or creating anything. It's that he's packaging all the best concepts. And this is kind of a side tangent, but I lose patience with business books now because they

have one or two good concepts and they take two or three hundred pages to just, you

know, give it to me in 20 or 30 pages.

Clay takes all of like the best practices of building and growing a business.

And not that he's creating any of these. A lot of them, you could just pick and choose out there and

you can get them, but he packages them all together in such a tactical approach that it's very,

you know, his book, he has one book that I used to, I don't

need any more. In fact, I should give it, but I would, every time I'd sell a business, I would

give it as a closing gift to the buyer because it was so valuable. It's like 500 pages, but it's just

packed with tactical concepts rather than a book that big that has two or three

or four concepts and it gives you all this long history and research.

It's just packed after page after page of really tactical concepts.

I'll have to put that with show notes.

That sounds like a good resource.

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