I knew that the trick to success wasn't, you know, Google AdWords or understanding attribution like we were talking about before we hit record or understanding accounting.

It's not that. It was building a team, having a clear vision, having good systems and metrics in place to measure your success.

It was it was things like that.

It was how to solve real problems, how to make real decisions, how to do, you know,

really detailed analysis and make wise, prudent decisions that would be in keeping with

something like Proverbs or I was reading from in the Lerge of Hours this morning, the Office

of Readings, the, uh, from the book of wisdom. And, you know, the Office of Readings, the, uh, uh, from the book of

wisdom. And, you know, the, the, the, the natural law principles of prudence and wisdom in there,

like screaming at me in terms of business.

Welcome to The Crunch, the only Catholic podcast for people with a pulse.

My name is Ethan.

And I'm Patrick.

Today we have a very special guest.

A man who is prolific in more than one regard.

I'm looking at his bio here to make sure I don't screw it up.

He's the CEO of multiple businesses, just like you, Patrick. He's a father of 15, and he's written not just 16. The book is incorrect then.

So that's my mistake. When I was researching Connor, the number kept going up.

I know you keep finding older and older. There's a live ticker like the doomsday clock that just

keeps going. He's a father of 16. He does a lot with many businesses that you've, some

you've heard of, some you haven't, but he's written a book called the well-ordered family, which you

can get, I'm going to hold it up here. You can get for 50% off using the code Crunch 50.

So you click the link in the bio of this podcast.

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