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All right, Thrive Nation, welcome back to the Thrive Time Show on your radio.

On today's show, we are interviewing a man who has more than 50,000 people per week who

download and open up his weekly newsletter. This guy sends out 50,000 newsletters a week

that all get opened and read. He's spoken at Harvard University, South by Southwest,

and TEDx. He actually used to work. He served in the White House under George W. Bush.

This guy has recently made a book written a book that was recommended to me by one of our clients,

a guy with him of Joel David. He owns multiple jewelry stores right here in the Tulsa,

Oklahoma area. Joel David came in for one of our weekly meetings and he said, hey,

you've got to have this guy on your show. This guy absolutely knows his stuff and he wrote a book

called, called, to create. And in this book, this guy shares compelling stories from an eclectic

group of 40 plus Christian entrepreneurs. He interviews the founders of Tom Shoes,

charity water, Chick-fil-A, and an out burger, Guinness. I mean, it's unbelievable how DP goes

into the interviews that he does, into the case studies. It's an incredible book. It's called,

to create. So, Chuck, without any further ado, let's go ahead and attempt to give this guy a call.

Here we go. Are you ready? Here we go. What do we call him? He doesn't pick up.

I mean, that's always the risk. That's the thing. He calls somebody and they don't pick up.

They'll see it. It's a call. He's working to hear the rejection right here.

Chuck, he knows aren't, he doesn't know recognize the number. He doesn't recognize the number.

He doesn't say clay clay. He doesn't know who we are. And if he didn't know who we are,

he still wouldn't pick up. Is this the incredible Jordan Rainer? And if it is, how are you doing?

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