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Skullduggery

Buried Treasure: So much for those thwarted terror plots

Skullduggery

Michael Isikoff, Daniel Klaidman, Victoria Bassetti

Politics, White House, News Commentary, Government, Senate, Podcasts, President, House Of Representatives, News, Victoria Bassetti, Supreme Court, Michael Isikoff, Foreign Policy, Scandels, Yahoo News, Voting, Elections, Skullduggery, Daniel Klaidman

4.02K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2019

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Charlie Savage of the New York Times joins co-hosts Michael Isikoff and Daniel Klaidman on Buried Treasure to discuss the surveillance kerfuffle during Obama's time in office. The previously unknown gathering of data and surveillance, while spying on American's phone records, was explained to the public as a necessary tool in order to thwart terror plots.

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0:00.0

This is not a situation where we simply go into the internet and start searching

0:09.2

any way that we want. This is a circumscribed, narrow system directed at us

0:15.9

being able to protect our people and all of it is done under the oversight of

0:23.2

the courts. And as a consequence we've saved lives. We know of at least 50

0:30.5

threats that have been averted because of this information, not just in the

0:34.9

United States but in some cases threats here in Germany. That was President

0:40.2

Barack Obama in June 2013 defending what was unquestionably the most

0:44.2

controversial surveillance program of his administration, the mass

0:48.0

collection of Americans phone records by the National Security Agency. The

0:52.8

collection was done under the authorities granted under the Patriot Act, enacted

0:57.0

after the terror attacks of 9-11 and it was entirely secret until a whistleblower

1:02.3

named Edward Snowden leaked the document about it to the news media. The

1:07.2

disclosure created an uproar revealing that the US government with no

1:10.9

public debate had created a breathtaking database of hundreds of millions of

1:16.0

phone records. Everybody you called, everybody you called you. Obama and his

1:20.8

National Security officials vigorously pushed back claiming that the phone

1:24.2

collection program had thwarted multiple terrorist attacks. But barely six

1:28.6

months later a White House panel set up to review the program reached a very

1:32.7

different conclusion. It could find no major terror plots at all that had been

1:37.3

prevented by the program. It was, uh, hello, what are we doing here said one

1:42.0

member of the panel, Jeffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor. The

1:46.8

one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had

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