Burgundy vs Bordeaux, with Hugh Johnson and Jancis Robinson

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🗓️ 9 April 2015

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Among wine lovers, there is no greater divide than that between Burgundy and Bordeaux. These are the world’s most celebrated wine regions, different places producing different styles of wine. What separates them and why the great rivalry? Many wine buffs believe that Bordeaux is for beginners. It’s a wine that you enjoy before your palate has fully matured and you then move on to the more exquisite pleasures of Burgundy. Bordeaux, say its detractors, is cerebral, like algebra, and is dignified at best. Burgundy, on the other hand, is a wine that makes you dream. As Roald Dahl once wrote, “To drink a Romanée-Conti is like having an orgasm in the mouth and nose at the same time”. But others disagree. The best red Burgundy is made only from the pinot noir grape and some would argue that there’s not that much going on with it. Bordeaux, its aficionados like to point out, is almost always a blend of grapes that include cabernet sauvignon, merlot, cabernet franc, malbec and petit verdot. It’s a construct, it... Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Maybe 30 or 20 years ago, a Saudi might have said, I'm Muslim and I'm Arab and I'm Saudi.
0:07.0	Now they might say, I'm Saudi and I'm Arab and I'm Muslim.
0:10.0	You know, they're trying to radically refashion their country and they need help from the best experts in the world
0:15.1	Do you want to have your country's people be disqualified from that because of some essentially antiquated point of view about how countries work together?
0:23.4	In recent months it can feel like Saudi Arabia is intent on buying the world.
0:27.8	It's bought up much of golf, sports teams, many of the globe's best soccer players to its own domestic league and it owns huge chunks of many of the biggest companies on the planet.
0:37.5	But Saudi Arabia is not just on a shopping spree.
0:40.5	The once insular oil-rich Kingdom is transforming into a major diplomatic and military
0:46.0	player, a pivotal actor in the energy transition and looks set to host high-end cultural events like the
0:51.9	FIFA World Cup.
0:53.0	You know, they know that buying a football club immediately brings you a
0:57.2	billboard into a global game that allows you to completely reposition yourself
1:02.2	or rebrand yourself.
1:03.4	It feels like we're entering the era of the Saudi project.
1:06.6	But what exactly is the kingdom trying to achieve and will it succeed?
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1:18.0	Britain does have choices. It's not either or situation. We either indulge Mohammed bin Salman or boycott of Mohammed
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1:37.0	I'm Senior Producer, Connor Boyle.
1:39.0	For this week's debate we're going back to 2015.
1:41.0	We invited two of the UK's top wine critics,
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