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Bulwark on Sunday: The End of The Republic?

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 October 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Bill Kristol and Michael Wood take on the fears we could be at the end of the republic as we know it.

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0:00.0

Hi, Bill Crystal here with Bullwork on Sunday. I'm glad to have Michael with us, with me again.

0:06.5

A businessman in Texas, failed congressional candidate in one race. That was hard. Okay. It was not failed.

0:14.9

It was a noble effort and made an important point that there's no room for anyone who's critical

0:19.2

of Trump in the Republican Party anymore.

0:21.2

It was a 2% moral victory, I think.

0:23.8

That was a few years ago anyway.

0:26.0

And I guess most important for our Marine veteran, a combat veteran.

0:31.8

And now, most importantly for this conversation, the author of a really excellent substack,

0:36.4

the most recent of which was really striking, the end of P really excellent substack, the most recent of which was really

0:37.6

striking, the end of Pax Americana. It's a from the future in 2039, a little essay and really

0:45.8

thought provoking. So I thought we'd talk about that and then talk a little bit about maybe

0:48.3

what's going on in the Defense Department as well, which you're plugged into and obviously

0:52.2

know a lot about. So Michael, thanks for,

0:55.5

thanks for joining me today. Yeah, it's good to be here. Thanks for having me. It's good to see you

1:03.5

again. It's good to talk. How are things in Virginia? Oh, great. Good, actually. I have to vote

1:10.0

tomorrow and early a week out.

1:11.9

I think we'll have a good election result from my point of view here. So Virginia is one of the, actually, the better states of the union right now, maybe, you know. And Yon, for all that I'm not in love with him, has kind of protected us weirdly from the last time of the Trump stuff because he's a Republican governor. so they haven't bothered too much

1:27.5

hasn't been too much ice action here

1:29.4

or that kind of thing.

1:30.4

So I'm about to... from the last some of the Trump stuff because he's a Republican governor, so they haven't bothered too much,

1:27.7

hasn't been too much ice action here or that kind of thing.

1:30.3

So there's not sort of the sort of freaking out that you're seeing in New Jersey or anything like that?

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