So when I'm driving, I have my shirt, I carry appendix, and I have my shirt tucked behind my carry pistol to save me if I need to get to it while I'm in the car, right?

So he's coming back. He says something about whooping ass. I just rest my hand on the gun, which is visible, apparently, because he sees it, which is probably a good thing because he started backing up.

And he kept facing you while he was doing it.

But the whole time he was backing up, he's like, he says, I got a gun too, which is probably the stupidest thing for him to say.

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welcome back to the active cell protection podcast. I'm yet again your host, Mike Williver. And with any luck, I'm still your favorite former Fed with us today, a new friend of mine. He goes by the handle of Scars, Scars Rodriguez. He and I met at the, I believe, at the Conference. Is that right, at the Active Self Protection Conference? It was last year. Yeah, that's right. It seems like I've known you longer than that. I don't know if we've been Facebook friends longer. At any rate, he is an acquaintance of mine and a friend of active self-protection and an avid conference go.

So let me start with a bit of a question out of left field, Scars.

Why would you recommend anyone listening who's looking to train go to this conference versus say any other set of training what what have

you gotten out of it that you think might interest our our listeners and viewers a couple things um

the first time i went i met brian hill which started off a great relationship and training

with him and some journeys so So I traveled with him,

I traveled to train with him and a couple other. And I met Riley T. Bowman and a couple of other top

instructors who I keep my eyes out for. And on top of that, I met some great friends and brothers and

sisters. And I keep in touch with him. And we travel to train with each other. And it's just

a really good community and really good learning. I think what I would say, if someone asked me,

why is this different or why is it worth going to is you, what you don't have is a lot of

egos among the trainers. You have a lot of really level-headed outstanding. You named two

of the best trainers in the country, in my opinion, in Riley and and Brian Hill.

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