Building Your Bravery Muscle: Why Facing Discomfort is the Key to Fulfillment | Jill Schulman (EP403)
Minimalist Moms Podcast | Simple Living for Overwhelmed Moms
Diane Boden
4.8 • 952 Ratings
🗓️ 25 August 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
What if bravery wasn’t about being fearless—but about taking small, deliberate steps in the face of fear? In this episode, I’m joined by Jill Schulman, a Marine Corps veteran and leadership expert, to talk about her new book on courage. She shares how to move past routine, confront challenges in relationships, career, and parenting, and why building a supportive “brave tribe” matters. If fear has been holding you back, this conversation will help you see bravery in a whole new way.
Links Discussed in This Episode |
- Diane's Resource: Book: The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter
- Connect with Jill:
- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillaschulman/
- https://www.instagram.com/jillschulman
- Website: https://jillschulman.com/
- Book:
About Jill |
Jill Schulman is a U.S. Marine Corps veteran, keynote speaker, and expert in the science of bravery. With a Master’s in Applied Positive Psychology (Science of Happiness and Well-Being), she combines evidence-based research with real-world experience to help individuals and teams embrace courage, push limits, and achieve greater performance and well-being. Her upcoming book,The Science of Bravery, provides practical tools for developing a courageous mindset, taking bold actions, and building brave relationships.
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| 0:00.0 | But if you look at the definition of bravery, bravery is voluntary action. I definitely experience |
| 0:06.3 | fear. And hopefully at the end of this podcast, everyone realizes that moving towards something that you |
| 0:11.1 | fear is exactly what you need to be doing to live your best life. If you're not scared, if there's no |
| 0:17.1 | fear, you're not being brave, right? Bravery isn't just something you're born with. |
| 0:21.4 | It's a muscle that you build, and it's built step by step over time. |
| 0:26.3 | So sometimes the thing that you fear, like we usually run away from what we fear. |
| 0:31.9 | And when we avoid what we fear, it makes the fear stronger. |
| 0:36.7 | So the whole thing about fear is you take a step forward in the presence of fear, it makes the fear stronger. So the whole thing about fear is you take a step forward |
| 0:39.8 | in the presence of fear and then you did it and you go to yourself, I did it. Okay, it wasn't so bad. |
| 0:45.8 | If you learn how to step forward toward your fears, it gives you the freedom. It allows you to |
| 0:51.1 | take charge of your life and turn the wheel toward where you want instead of just allowing fear to make decisions for you. |
| 0:57.0 | Hello and welcome to the minimalist moms podcast. What if bravery wasn't about being fearless but about taking small, deliberate steps in the face of fear? |
| 1:07.0 | In today's episode, I'm joined by Jill Shulman, a Marine Corps veteran and leadership expert to talk about her new book on courage, the bravery effect. |
| 1:15.0 | Jill shares how to move past routine, confront challenges and relationships, career, and parenting, and why building a supportive brave tribe matters. |
| 1:23.4 | If fear has been holding you back, this conversation will help you see bravery in a whole new way. |
| 1:28.1 | But before we get there, I quickly want to share a minimalist resource with all of you. |
| 1:32.2 | This is one I've shared before, but it's the book The Comfort Crisis by Michael Easter. |
| 1:36.8 | In this book, Easter explores how modern life has become so comfortable that it's actually |
| 1:41.1 | hurting us physically, mentally, and emotionally. |
| 1:45.5 | He argues that by always avoiding discomfort, we miss out on growth, resilience, and even joy. And what I love about this |
| 1:50.3 | book is that it's not just a theory. He weaves in science, stories from extreme adventures, |
| 1:55.0 | and practical ways we can push ourselves just a little bit more out of our comfort zone, |
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