Hello, hello, welcome to Smart Talks with IBM, a podcast from Pushkin Industries, I Heart

Radio and IBM.

I'm Malcolm Gubbow.

This season we're talking to new creators, the developers, data scientists, CTOs and

other visionaries who are creatively applying technology and business to drive change.

Channeling their knowledge and expertise, they're developing more creative and effective

solutions no matter the industry.

Our guest today is Pedro Bonidirez, trust in AI practice leader within IBM consulting.

Advocating for artificial intelligence built and deployed responsibly is no longer just

a compliance issue, but a business imperative.

Part of Pedro's job is to help companies identify potential risks and pitfalls way before

any code is written.

In today's show, you'll hear how Pedro's team at IBM is approaching this challenge holistically

and creatively.

Pedro spoke with Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Pushkin podcast, The Happiness Lab.

Laurie is a professor of psychology at Yale University and an expert on human cognition

and the cognitive biases that impede better choices.

Now, let's get to the interview.

Pedro, I'm so excited that we get a chance to chat today.

Just to start off, I'm wondering how did you get started in this role at IBM?

What's the story to how you got where you are today?

Oh goodness, my background is actually from the world of video games for entertainment.

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