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Building Cluely: The Viral AI Startup that raised $15M in 10 Weeks

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Science, Innovation, Business, Entrepreneurship, Culture, Disruption, Software Eating The World, Technology

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 June 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

What if virality wasn’t a tactic — but the entire product? In this episode, a16z General Partners Erik Torenberg and Bryan Kim sit down with Roy Lee, cofounder and CEO of Cluely, one of the most talked-about consumer AI startups of 2025. Cluely didn’t raise a mega round or drop a feature suite to get traction - it broke through by turning distribution into design: launching viral short-form videos, pushing polarizing product drops, and building in public with speed and spectacle. We cover: – Why virality is Cluely’s moat – Building a brand-native AI interface – The Gen Z founder mindset – What most startups get wrong about attention – Why creators are the new product managers – Cluely’s long-term vision for ambient AI Cluely is a glimpse at the next generation of startups, where the line between product and performance is disappearing.

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0:00.0

We wrote our first lines of code 10 weeks ago.

0:02.3

We're like earlier than the latest YC batch of companies,

0:05.5

yet we're like generating probably more revenue than every single one of them.

0:08.5

It's been so hard to pierce through the noise of everything in the AI,

0:13.3

especially for the consumer facing, pursuers facing.

0:15.8

To do that consistently is actually way harder, near impossible.

0:20.4

I heard someone call it RIS Marketing, which is a compliment.

0:22.6

They're like, I hate this Riz marketing.

0:24.6

AI is so magical. We like built the digital god, locked it in a chat bot.

0:29.6

Six months ago, some random college kid in a dorm, and now I feel like I'm at the center of the tech universe.

0:35.6

What happens when a founder treats virality not as a tactic but as the product?

0:41.5

Roy Lee, co-founder and CEO of Cluley, is either a generational entrepreneur or a walking internet

0:46.6

experiment, maybe both.

0:48.7

In just a few months, he's built one of the most talked about startups in tech, not with

0:52.7

a massive fundraise or a polished product suite, but through relentless short-form content, polarizing stunts, and a translucent

0:59.1

AI overlay that feels more like performance art than interface. Joining me today is Roy, along with

1:04.6

Brian Kim, who led A16Z's investment in Cluele. We talk about Roy's approach to building in

1:09.7

public, what Gen Z understands

1:11.5

about attention that tech still doesn't, and why momentum might be the new moat in consumer AI.

1:16.5

This is a conversation about distribution as design, founder market fit at internet speed,

1:21.1

and what happens when you stop trying to be professional and start trying to win. Let's get into it.

1:27.4

As a reminder, the content here is for informational purposes only. Should not be taken and start trying to win. Let's get into it.

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