Welcome back everyone to the Epic Gardening podcast, Kevin Espiritu here, where back was

Jacques also known as the Garden Hermit and I don't know, it came from a meme I think

that nickname, but it came from a meme based in history, which was like an old

profession in Europe, I think, somewhere in like the 1300s, where there was a

profession of people who were just garden hermits and they would sort of

exist in the garden and grow produce and sort of be that way, right?

Yeah, it was basically somebody living there, tending the garden and offering

entertainment. Yeah, exactly. The part that was so funny was offering the

entertainment, like you also playing the the leerer or something or the flute, you

know, but anyways, so that's his official nickname now because he saw the meme and he said,

honestly, that's goals for me. And so let's talk then about how you've built your own

garden in your home. So we teased it yesterday, but to do it that fast, I think is

remarkable, especially for the size that you're growing is not that small, it's

pretty big. It's bigger than my garden right now, I'd say an overall planted footage

maybe. I'm not sure. Yeah, I guess I'm pretty close. Yeah, it's probably close,

but how are you how are you growing and how'd you build it? Yeah, I guess just to get

kind of started, basically, once I started gardening, like very heavily in this this

property, I wanted to learn more because I feel like I didn't know enough. So somebody

actually gifted me the John Jove and how to grow more vegetables by intensively book.

Great book. And you know, my background is actually in science and I actually really like

reading textbooks. Like that's a pretty heavy like textbook. And I just read through the whole

thing in a few days and I just like immediately was like, wow, I want to grow as much food as I can.

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