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Buffer zones: protecting women or an overreach against free speech? Should silent prayer be banned? Lois McLatchie Miller vs Jan MacVarish hosted by Andy Kind

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Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 11 October 2024

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

Should silent prayer be banned? This week on Unbelievable we’re touching on a sensitive and deeply complex issue that affects both women and men— abortion. Specifically, we’ll be discussing buffer zones outside abortion clinics, which have sparked intense debate around the world, including in the UK, where new legislation comes into effect on October 31, 2024. These zones will make it illegal to influence someone’s decision to access abortion services, including activities like prayer, within a 150-meter radius of clinics.  This conversation resonates not only in the UK but also in the US, where similar debates have unfolded. How can we balance the safety and privacy of women when they are at their most vulnerable against preserving individual freedoms of speech and religious expression.  Join Andy Kind and his two thoughtful guests who have wrestled with these matters extensively: Jan MacVarish, a pro-choice advocate supporting buffer zones, and Lois McLatchie Miller, a pro-life defender and senior legal communications officer for ADF, who advocates for religious freedom and free speech, particularly in cases like silent prayer outside clinics.  SOCIAL LINKS Twitter: https://twitter.com/unbelievablefe Facebook: / https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Instagram: / https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: / https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable 👉 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes—absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 🎉📢 • Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast: https://pod.link/267142101 • More shows, free eBook & newsletter: https://premierunbelievable.com • For live events: http://www.unbelievable.live • For online learning: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/training • Support us in the USA: http://www.premierinsight.org/unbelievableshow • Support us in the rest of the world: https://www.premierunbelievable.com/donate

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My view is that the privacy of patients accessing legally agreed medical care, in particular that which relates to some of the most fundamental questions that a person can face, which is,

0:15.0

am I going to have this baby now?

0:18.0

That's an incredibly deep question for an individual to place,

0:21.0

and I don't think that anybody else outside of that person

0:26.2

and the relationships that they have with the people immediately involved actually

0:30.4

has any kind of close right to interfere.

0:34.0

Prolifers for many years have had a good practice of offering

0:38.0

charitable leaflets about support services available to women who might like to consider continuing their pregnancy if they know about other options available of economic support of spiritual emotional advice etc.

0:51.0

I have come to accept the needs for these very, very minimal exclusion zones around clinics

0:58.8

because abortion clinics in Britain are peculiarly exposed.

1:03.0

Unfortunately, where we've seen buffer zones come in already under local authority measures,

1:08.0

we've seen people arrested or fined, even for the thoughts they've had in their head. No matter what your opinion is on abortion,

1:16.0

we should all be able to agree that free speech is paramount. Freedom of thought is paramount,

1:20.6

and these laws go far too far.

1:25.3

Hello and welcome to Unbelievable, the show that gets Christians and

1:29.2

non-Christians engaging in some of life's biggest questions and at times profound moral dilemmas.

1:36.0

I am your host Andy Kind.

1:38.0

Today we are touching on a sensitive and deeply complex subject that affects both men and women alike that of abortion.

1:46.7

Specifically we'll be discussing buffer zones outside abortion clinics which have sparked

1:52.1

debate, intense debate around the world,

1:54.6

including in the UK where new legislation comes into force on the 31st of October

1:59.8

this year, 2024.

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