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Welcome to the Buckbury for everybody. We're going to continue with our coverage today of everything happening in Israel and the war against Hamas there. Joining us is our friend David Harsani. He is a senior editor at the Federalist David. Thanks for being here.

It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me. Now I know the conflict is just really beginning now the Israeli response the counter strike is underway as we speak.

And we've spent time on the show this week already discussing the atrocity, the heinousness of these crimes. It's beyond comprehension. It is an evil that it goes to the worst steps of depravity.

I want to ask you what do you think the the strategy now the end state should be for Netanyahu and the Israeli leadership and what what does the right response look like.

Wow, I mean, you know, there are I think different facets that I have to go through there. One is obviously you need to take care of Hamas now. I don't think that mission is done until you're speaking about them in the past tense.

So you know, that means a ground war or you know house to house combat or whatever in in Gaza, which is going to be incredibly dangerous. I'm not like an expert, but surely it will be booby trapped.

Because Israel is got other way to help civilians. They're basically like projecting where they're going to go. So Hamas knows where they're going because they want to move civilians. So it's going to be Israel is going to lose lives doing that.

But I think it's a necessary thing to do. Then obviously you have to start thinking about his Bala and their threatening Israel constantly in the north another Iranian proxy with real missiles, you know, far more dangerous armaments, I think.

And then you have to start thinking about Iran if a country actually they did. I mean if a country helped logistically and with funding to attack your country to kill your citizens and celebrated it.

That's a declaration of war in most places for any normal country. Iranians did that to Israel and to 11 American citizens, not to mention the 600 soldiers they've killed in the past or more of Americans and the hostage industry they have.

So not saying we should go to war with them. What I'm saying is Israel has to in some way weaken that regime or hurt them. There has to be a price to pay for this or they're going to do it again.

And another country that needs to be thought about is Qatar where Hamas leadership just sits in a fancy hotel room as this goes on. I mean, they're supposedly an ally of the United States, you know.

So I don't know. Those are the things that popped into my mind right now.

What what do you think about the change that this may have in terms of the long term implications for what happens with the West Bank with Gaza.

You know, talk of two state solution, all this kind of stuff. I mean, it seems to me that Hamas has made it as clear as it as it honestly possibly can.

That not only does it have no and has no interest in a peaceful solution ever. But it is just a sworn mortal enemy of every every Jew in Israel.

Every Jew in the world.

Yeah, that was never going to happen. I mean, Hamas, I'm sure your listeners know and you know, Gaza was given to Hamas. It was given to the Palestinians in 2005. It's kind of a test run for a state.

I mean, Sharon, it was Prime Minister literally went in there and moved Jews out. It was cleansed of Jews. And they had a chance to have their own state. And what did they do?

They you know, they they elected Hamas. They killed Fata, which is supposedly more moderate faction. There is no way that that can never be a state and not not.

I think it was this summer Fata and Hamas were in talks to have a unity government. If you give any Palestinian a state, it's going to be a Fata run. I mean, it's going to be a Hamas run state.

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