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BTL | What's Next For Brian Ortega After UFC Shanghai? Plus, Walker's Big Win, Misfits 22, More

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

UFC Shanghai is in the books, and while some things certainly happened that were newsworthy, the two biggest storylines came from the final two fights, including Brian Ortega's rough 48 hour stretch from his chaotic weigh in, to his performance against Aljamain Sterling in a lopsided five-round loss. Where does "T-City" go next, and could it be to a promotion outside of the UFC? On an all-new edition of Between the Links, the panel discusses the fallout from the UFC's most recent Fight Night event, what happens with Ortega next, what Sterling gains from the biggest win of his featherweight run, and Johnny Walker stopping Mingyang Zhang in the main event. Additionally, topics may include Saturday's Misfits Boxing 22 event, which features Darren Till vs. Luke Rockhold, Tony Ferguson vs. Salt Papi, and Dillon Danis in an MMA fight, the Raja Jackson — the son of Rampage Jackson — incident in the pro wrestling world, and much more. Join MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew as they discuss the biggest stories in the combat sports world. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠@m_heckjr⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠@JedKMeshew⁠ Subscribe:⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠ Read More: ⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:08.5

Live from M.A. Fighting Studios, this is Between the Links.

0:15.6

And now, your host, Mike Heck.

0:23.6

The iconic voice of Esther Lynn welcomes you to a brand new edition of BTL.

0:29.6

Happy Thursday through us all.

0:31.6

Great to be back with you on a rare week without a UFC event.

0:40.5

And that doesn't happen all that often.

0:41.7

But thank you for joining us.

0:45.0

Today, Q&A edition, like I said, no UFC card.

0:48.9

So we're just going to banter about with all of you guys and gals. And joining me to answer your questions,

0:52.3

the man, the myth, the legend, Mr. No Gray area, the hot take kid himself, the one and only.

0:58.0

Jed Bishue, and what a backdrop he has today.

1:00.9

Look at this.

1:02.5

Just a joy in life, summertime, and the living is easy.

1:06.3

Is it not Jedmishu?

1:08.5

You know, sunny Florida as advertised, sunny and not even that hot I mean it's like warm

1:16.9

but mostly it's lovely I get why people move down here you know fantastic weather as we

1:24.0

approach this Labor Day weekend a weekend of where the UFC has decided to lessen

1:28.7

our labor, big fan of that, and some other stuff going on this week, which I'm sure we'll

1:33.4

get into. Yes, and I'm just going to throw this out there. As you can see, the infamous pool

1:39.9

is in the background where Jed created one of the greatest moments in the history of the program.

1:46.1

And Jed has said that he will do a cannonball or some sort of jump into that pool if we

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