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BTL | UFC 321 Fallout, Tom Aspinall's Stock After Eye Poke, UFC Back At the APEX

MMA Fighting

Vox Media Podcast Network

Sports News, Sports, News

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

While UFC 321 is in the rear-view mirror, the aftertaste has lasted a lot longer than most events we've seen this year following the eye poke from Ciryl Gane to Tom Aspinall that ended the main event in a no-contest, leaving the MMA community with more questions than answers, and a division amongst the fanbase, overall. Despite the unfortunate ending to the fight, has Aspinall's stock dropped overall, even though he was not the one who committed the foul? On an all-new edition of Between the Links, the panel discusses the fallout from the Aspinall vs. Gane fight, Dana White's comments at the post-fight press conference, Mackenzie Dern becoming the UFC strawweight champion, and much more from the most recent pay-per-view event. Additionally, topics may include Umar Nurmagomedov's victory over Mario Bautista and where he goes next, Dirty Boxing's event on Thursday night headlined by Gable Steveson vs. Billy Swanson, the UFC's return to the APEX this Saturday with Steve Garcia vs. David Onama in the headline spot, and whatever else is on your mind. Join MMA Fighting's Mike Heck and Jed Meshew as they answer, and debate your questions all show long. Follow Mike Heck: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@m_heckjr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Jed Meshew: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JedKMeshew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/dYpsgH⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out our full video catalog: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/u8VvLi⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Visit our playlists:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ http://goo.gl/eFhsvM⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Like MMAF on Facebook: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/uhdg7Z⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow on Twitter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://goo.gl/nOATUI⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Read More: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://www.mmafighting.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:08.1

Live from M.MA Fighting Studios, this is Between the Links.

0:15.1

And now, your host, Mike Peck.

0:22.4

The iconic voice of Esther Lynn welcomes you to a brand new edition of Between the Links.

0:28.7

Happy Thursday to us all. It is the end of October. It is Halloween Eve. We are knocking on the door of November and daylight savings and the time changes and all that.

0:40.8

If you're in the Northeast, you could certainly feel the weather cooling off a little bit.

0:45.4

I know here in South Carolina, it's like a nice brisk 57 degrees, which I'll take any day of the

0:51.0

week, but 57 degrees here feels way different to 57 degrees in Massachusetts.

0:55.3

If you're from here, you know what I'm talking about.

0:57.7

But we are here to talk some mixed martial arts.

1:00.2

UFC 321 is in the books, and this one is lasting a little bit longer due to how the main event ended.

1:06.6

So I'm sure we're going to get questions about that.

1:09.1

And much more from UFC 321.

1:11.5

The UFC is back at the world's most famous apex this weekend.

1:15.2

Rejoice, ladies and gentlemen.

1:16.7

We got DBX4 coming up later on tonight.

1:20.8

So there are things to discuss.

1:22.0

And joining me to discuss all of those things and much more and answer your questions.

1:27.9

Is Mr.

1:31.5

No Gray area, the hot take kid himself, the climber of all climbers.

1:34.2

And boy, he climbed on Saturday.

1:38.2

He could have climbed a little bit higher, but it wasn't a loss, nonetheless, for the one and only Jed Bishue from M.AFighting.com.

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