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We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

BTC246: The Future of Insurance using Bitcoin w/ Becca Rubenfeld & Rob Hamilton (Bitcoin Podcast)

We Study Billionaires - The Investor’s Podcast Network

Stig Brodersen

Education, Investing, Business

4.63.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

Becca and Rob from AnchorWatch join Preston to unpack the future of Bitcoin custody and insurance. They explore multisig security, time-locked vaults, inheritance planning, insured yield products, and how institutional players like banks and insurers are adopting crypto through innovative custody models, convertible debt strategies, and reinsurance collaborations. IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN: 00:00 - Intro 09:26 - How AnchorWatch uses Miniscript and multisig for Bitcoin custody 15:20 - Why Bitcoin is gaining traction in institutional asset management 19:07 - AnchorWatch’s approach to inheritance and asset protection 27:05 - What Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's crypto guidance means for lending 39:51 - How Bitcoin custody is evolving to resemble traditional banking 40:28 - How insurance firms are gaining Bitcoin exposure via convertible debt 45:22 - The potential for Bitcoin-denominated insurance products 46:05 - AnchorWatch's collaboration with institutional partners like Allianz 47:07 - Yield opportunities in insured Bitcoin pools Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Website: AnchorWatch. X Account: Rob Hamilton. X Account: Becca Rubenfeld. Check out all the books mentioned and discussed in our podcast episodes ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our ⁠⁠⁠⁠Premium Feed⁠⁠⁠⁠. NEW TO THE SHOW? Join the exclusive ⁠⁠⁠TIP Mastermind Community⁠⁠⁠ to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Stig, Clay, Kyle, and the other community members. Follow our official social media accounts: ⁠⁠⁠X (Twitter)⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠ | | ⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠. Check out our ⁠⁠⁠Bitcoin Fundamentals Starter Packs⁠⁠⁠. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠. Try our tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: ⁠⁠⁠TIP Finance Tool⁠⁠⁠. Enjoy exclusive perks from our ⁠⁠⁠favorite Apps and Services⁠⁠⁠. Get smarter about valuing businesses in just a few minutes each week through our newsletter, ⁠⁠⁠The Intrinsic Value Newsletter⁠⁠⁠. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the ⁠⁠⁠best business podcasts⁠⁠⁠. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our ⁠⁠⁠sponsors⁠⁠⁠: SimpleMining Hardblock AnchorWatch Human Rights Foundation Cape Unchained Vanta Shopify Onramp Abundant Mines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm

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0:00.0

You're listening to TIP.

0:02.7

Hey, everyone, welcome to this Wednesday's release of the Bitcoin Fundamentals podcast.

0:06.9

On this week's show, I have Ms. Becca Rubenfeld and Mr. Rob Hamilton to talk to us about

0:12.0

the business of insurance and how it might be ripe for disruption using Bitcoin.

0:16.8

At the start of the show, we have a discussion around institutional custody, why it's so important

0:21.3

with all these Bitcoin Treasury companies now coming on the scene, and where that might all go from

0:26.1

a key management standpoint. Then, in the latter part of the conversation, we get into this

0:30.7

really fascinating idea around insurance and how it might be a competitor to the borrowing

0:35.5

and lending space for the free market yields one might

0:38.3

receive. This is an idea I've never explored on the show before, and it's really a fascinating

0:43.3

concept. So, with all of that, I hope you guys enjoy this interesting conversation with Becca

0:48.5

and Rob.

0:53.1

Celebrating 10 years.

0:54.4

You are listening to Bitcoin Fundamentals by the Investors Podcast Network.

0:59.2

Now for your host, Preston Pish.

1:02.2

Hey everyone, welcome to Bitcoin Fundamentals.

1:14.0

I have two good friends, massive builders in the space with Becca, Rubenfeld, and Rob Hamilton.

1:20.4

Guys, welcome to the show.

1:22.5

Thanks for having us.

1:23.5

Yeah, long time listener, first time caller.

1:25.9

Yeah, we need to fix that.

1:27.4

Long time coming, yeah. Yeah, we need to fix that. Long time coming, yeah.

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